Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061110/ap_on_re_us/rnc_chairman" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200 61110/ap_on_re_us/rnc_chairman</a> One of the people responsible for all the hard core rhetoric the last few years, RNC chairman Ken Mehlman, a Rove protege, is stepping down. Who said there weren't positives to come out of this?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Bill Maher essentially outed Mehlman on Larry King the other night. (I'd heard that Mehlman was gay before, but never on such a high-profile program). Coincidence that he steps down now? Maybe it was just the election loss. But maybe not.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Maher had a great line on that show. Larry King said he hadn't heard anything about Mehlman possibly being gay, and Maher said, "Maybe you don't go to the same bathhouses I do."
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Really? Well, now that it's mentioned, I suppose so. Mehlman's exit could still easily be attributed to the election though. The guy's suddenly a dinosaur, at least for a while.
Originally Posted By DAR <<Maher had a great line on that show. Larry King said he hadn't heard anything about Mehlman possibly being gay, and Maher said, "Maybe you don't go to the same bathhouses I do.">> And is that more of the tolerance that people on the left always preach about? Mehlman is gone that is just fine, but Maher is in the same ilk as the Limbaugh and Hannity's of the world.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Maher isn't always as funny as he thinks he is, but at least he's benign.
Originally Posted By alexbook >>Maher isn't always as funny as he thinks he is, but at least he's benign.<< I'm not sure about Maher these days, but back in his "Politically Incorrect" days he was one of the worst offenders when it came to taking stories out of context to try to provoke outrage from his guests. He'd also frequently cut people off if they weren't being angry or funny or controversial enough.
Originally Posted By gadzuux CNN edited the 'larry king' show to excise the mehlman outing for west coast broadcast.
Originally Posted By alexbook >>I agree, but I think he's gotten better.<< Thanks for the update. I guess I'll give him another look, then. (Sorry for going off-topic.)
Originally Posted By JohnS1 Why do some liberals profess to be all in favor of gay rights, gay marriage, etc., but as soon as bashing a gay is supportive of their political stance, they abandon all these so-called principles and rush out to call people gay - as if there was something wrong with that. They did it to get rid of McCarthy, they did it get rid of J. Edgar Hoover, and now Mehlman. It's sad to see so many fair-weather gay supporters like Maher. I personally think he's a slime ball.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Well you can take some comfort in the fact that mccarthy, hoover, and mehlman were pretty slimey too.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I think a lot has to do with the fact these so-called gay people did nothing but crusade against gays until they were outed themselves.
Originally Posted By JohnS1 I would think that denial, and all the accompanying walls that some people have built around them are all part of the social stigma that gays must endure. Some rather elaborate mechanisms have been put in place by gays throughout history in order to be part of society around them. They deserve sympathy, not contempt, I think, and not be subject to being outed by an opportunistic "entertainer" or whatever it is that Bill Maher considers himself to be.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <They did it to get rid of McCarthy, they did it get rid of J. Edgar Hoover, and now Mehlman.> Joe McCarthy? I don't think he was gay to begin with. He wasn't "got rid" of by gay allegations either. Perhaps you're confusing him with Roy Cohn, his assistant, but that didn't take place till long after McCarthy's heyday. Likewise, the fact that Hoover was gay was not even generally known till after he died. So he was not "got rid of" either. I believe he was FBI director till the day he died. And, for whatever reason, Bill Maher didn't out anybody last night, as he had said he was going to. FWIW, I don't think people should be outed, unless they actively work to make life difficult for other gay people. Then, frankly, I think they deserve it.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>but as soon as bashing a gay is supportive of their political stance<< Who's bashing him because he's gay? There are people bashing him because he's a tool, but not because he's gay (maybe).
Originally Posted By JohnS1 "Joe McCarthy? I don't think he was gay to begin with. He wasn't "got rid" of by gay allegations either. Perhaps you're confusing him with Roy Cohn, his assistant." I'm not confusing him with Roy Cohn - that's who I meant all along. I meant that in their efforts to get rid of McCarthy, they weren't beneath bringing up things such as the sexual orientation of Roy Cohn. But mainly it's the hypocrisy of some dems that riles me most. Members of their own party who did far worse than Foley ever did were praised for their strength and courage at the time, but when Foley surfaces, they are shocked and outraged.
