Originally Posted By Dabob2 Wait till you see his "press conference" (if you don't allow questions it's not really a press conference). They wait all this time to formulate a response and this is the best they can come up with? Luckily, he was so hardline and hardheaded, I think it will, to put it mildly, backfire on him.
Originally Posted By ecdc Is the NRA stupid enough to actually believe this nonsense they spew, or are they stupid enough to think this is a calculated response that'll play well? Pick your poison.
Originally Posted By ecdc Oh, and I swear to your god, if I hear another person talk about "the bad guys," I'm going to punch a rifle in the throat. This isn't a movie and it isn't the old west. Grow up.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan The comic strip Th(ink) by Keith Knight today had the caption "Hug them close tonight because you never know when they'll be taken away from you." The illustration was a guy in an NRA hat with his arms wrapped around a bunch of rifles, kissing the barrel. >>Oh, and I swear to your god, if I hear another person talk about "the bad guys," I'm going to punch a rifle in the throat.<< This is their simplistic world view. Bad guys, evil doers, empires of evil. Same dumbed down right wing claptrap, different day. They think in bumper stickers.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I agree that this is likely to help continuing turning the public sentiment away from at least certain types of guns. An armed police officer at every school. Who is going to pay for that? In my City we have 1 officer each at our high school and two elementary schools. We have two officers who rotate between our six elementary schools and one charter school. If we added enough officers to cover all of the schools that would cost our community another $500,000 per year. That may not sound like a lot of money but considering the extreme reductions in revenue over past 5 years that would be a huge hole to fill. And, we are a community that is FAR better off than most in South Florida. No way most schools sytems could do that.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Saying that last week's mass shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., could have been prevented or stopped if there had been armed, trained security personnel on site, officials of the National Rifle Association on Friday called for Congress to appropriate funds to put police officers in every American school.<< That's one thing we could do. And we could fund it with taxes and fees on the sale of guns and ammunition, hunting supplies, rifle ranges, gun shows, gun publications, NRA membership, NRA conventions, food sold at NRA conventions, violent video games, any movie that features a gun, simplistic 2nd amendment bumper stickers, rifle racks and Truck Nutz. Any extra funds could go towards upgrading ER trauma units. But the right is against any and all taxes, so so much for that idea. In other words, this "press conference" with no questions from the press was a useless dog and pony show by an organization disinterested in seeing that the thing it exists to promote is in any way part of the problem. The faster we push them out of this conversation and ignore their suggestions, the better.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I agree that this is likely to help continuing turning the public sentiment away from at least certain types of guns. << I think so, too. The NRA blew it with this nonsense. This crapola probably plays well to the guys wearing camo hunting hats at their conventions, but out in the real world, it's lunacy. LaPierre sounds like Floyd R. Turbo. Bad guys? Bro-ther.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I guess clueless wasn't only the name of a great movie from the 90's. That is about as out of touch as you could possibly get.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan It's like he's making this speech in the mid 1970s or something. It's insane.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer How is it that Canada watches the same movies and plays the same games that we do but doesn't have nearly the rate of gun violence or murder that we do?
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Per capita I wouldn't be surprised if they do. There's a lot of ugly things that happen up there as well, just not as publicized or exploited.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper My favorite part is where he goes in to talking about movies, music, and video games. First, movies. He talks about American Psycho and Natural Born Killers as if they're A) Movies that are even remotely relevant in this day and age and B) Movies that more than 5-10% of the population even saw. Next, music. We don't live in the 90s, where gangster rap was prevalent and spoke of murder casually. Finally games, where he talks about the irrelevant/unknown Splatterhouse and Bulletstorm, to the once popular now forgotten Mortal Kombat, to one that's a flash game no one has ever or would ever heard of without him "Kindergarten Killer". It just shows that this guy has NO idea what he's talking about. Also, one of the NRA's board members help make Call of Duty Black Ops II more realistic, and that game is the best selling "violent" game of all time. <a href="http://kotaku.com/5913092/call-of-duty-makers-say-controversial-oliver-north-helped-make-their-game-more-authentic" target="_blank">http://kotaku.com/5913092/call...uthentic</a>
Originally Posted By DyGDisney >>>Luckily, he was so hardline and hardheaded, I think it will, to put it mildly, backfire on him.<<< You forgot hard-hearted. So many agree too, unfortunately. I've heard this from several people I know. "More guns is the answer" seems to be the general consensus among conservatives.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Look if you want to have a trained police officer make a few more bypasses by a school then that I get and can get behind.
Originally Posted By Tikiduck As I recall, some were mocking this exact response in earlier posts. So, as if on cue, the NRA offers what we were passing off as ludicrous. Good guys and bad guys, countering guns with bigger guns. All we are missing is a poster of John Wayne standing in front of a school with an AR-15 in one hand, and an American flag in the other.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt So while this douchebag was lecturing us to arm the entire populace, another mass shooting was taking place in Pennsylvania: "The Blair County district attorney said that four people, including the alleged gunman, are dead after a series of shootings along a rural road on Friday." <a href="http://www.wjactv.com/news/news/sources-1-trooper-shot-another-injured-blair-co/nTcf5/" target="_blank">http://www.wjactv.com/news/new...o/nTcf5/</a>
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^Yup. Guy was apparently just walking down the street shooting people. If only John Mcclain was there! He would have stopped that bed guy!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Former RNC chairman Michael Steele called LaPierre's press conference "disturbing". “I don’t even know where to begin. As a supporter of the Second Amendment and a supporter of the NRA — even though I’m not a member of the NRA — I just found it very haunting and very disturbing that our country now is talking about arming our teachers and our principals in classrooms.” <a href="http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/michael-steele-nra-presser-was-disturbing-85409.html?ml=po_e" target="_blank">http://www.politico.com/story/...?ml=po_e</a>