Originally Posted By Darkbeer <a href="http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11657573/" target="_blank">http://msnbc.msn.com/id/116575 73/</a> >>Mrs Clinton's own senatorial financial disclosure forms reveal that her husband earned $450,000 giving speeches in Dubai in 2002. Officials from the UAE also donated between $500,000 and $1m to fund Mr Clinton's presidential library in Arkansas. It was part of an effort by the emirates, said a person close to UAE officials, to forge a close relationship with a former US president who is influential and highly regarded in the region. Mr Clinton's admiration for the UAE was last on display in November, when he made his fourth visit to the American University in Dubai and met students participating in the Clinton scholarship programme. The UAE has also contributed $100m to Hurricane Katrina relief funds – which Mr Clinton had a leading role in raising.<<
Originally Posted By Dirk_D_from_Oregon Hillary should be forced to disclose Bills earnings from the emirates as he is the Husband to a U.S. Senator.
Originally Posted By woody The Clintons are the world's biggest joke. "Bill and Hillary Great Political Adventure" should be the name of the new movie. Watch how Bill undermines Hillary with dirty dealings from Monica to Dubai. Watch how Hillary don't know what Bill's been up to, except that she really does know. It's a Bill and Hillary conspiracy to trick to the public into thinking they are moral and middle-of-the-road politicians, but they are really corrupt, opportunitic, money grabbing politicians.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder Was this thread started just to give you guys some time alone together?
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Originally Posted By cape cod joe To mod--okay that's fair to red out the busting chops as STPH ALWAYS does and my merely reacting to him. I find that professional. Good job!
Originally Posted By DlandDug AS far as I can see, there is nothing corrupt or illegal about the monies earned by Bill Clinton in the UAE. And there are (as far as I know) no restrictions on donations to Presidential Libraries. If a foreign government, friendly or not, is contributing to an office holder, that's another thing entirely. There is no indication that Hillary's political campaign benefitted from this. That she would claim to have no knowledge of these financial transactions is SOP for the disingenuous Ms. Rodham-Clinton. Right now ALL the Democrats must maintain that our ally the UAE is somehow dangerous to the security of the United States. But even Bill knows better than that.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Right now ALL the Democrats must maintain that our ally the UAE is somehow dangerous to the security of the United States.<< It's hardly just Democrats concerned about this deal, Doug... >>Meanwhile, California Rep. Duncan Hunter and Maine Sen. Susan Collins, both Republicans, said they will introduce legislation on the matter. Both have criticized the ports deal. The bill from Hunter, who is chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, would prohibit any foreign entity from owning facilities that the Department of Defense and the Department of Homeland Security deem critical to national security. The bill from Collins, chairwoman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, would change oversight of the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States (CFIUS), the administration panel that reviewed and approved the ports deal.<< www.cnn.com
Originally Posted By cape cod joe Every clear thinking American knows it Dug. The funds that Bill made were deposited into Billary's joint accounts. There is NOTHING wrong with that but let's all stop the balogna and say that the UAE is one of our best if not our best Arab friends. Then we can all move on. George is seen with them. Bill is. Tiger Woods is. For crying out loud, I'd invite them to play golf with me at the Ridge. They won't kill us. Really.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe 2oon-----------You know as well as I do that the Repubs are playing this stupid dishonest political game. George's numbers are historically low and they WILL lose both the House and the Senate if things don't change in a hurry, hence the UAE is being used as the SCAPEGOAT. It's so transparent it's pathetic but many Americans buy it of course
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>It's hardly just Democrats concerned about this deal, Doug...<< 2ny, I did not say that only the Democrats were concerned. My point was being made within the context of Democratic Senator Hillary Clinton's position.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan But you threw in this shot: >>Right now ALL the Democrats must maintain that our ally the UAE is somehow dangerous to the security of the United States.<< ... with no mention of the fact that many Republicans have had an identical negative reaction to the ports deal.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Then why take a shot at all Democrats, excusing Republicans, instead of Hillary Clinton in particular?
Originally Posted By DlandDug I didn't excuse anyone. I was simply giving Hillary something of a pass on the basis that, as a Democrat, she is on message with the rest of her party. I feel no obligation to delineate the exact political alliance that is criticizing the Port deal in a thread devoted to Hillary Clinton's stated position on her husband's financial dealings with the UAE.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I feel no obligation to delineate the exact political alliance that is criticizing the Port deal in a thread devoted to Hillary Clinton's stated position on her husband's financial dealings with the UAE.<< Why? Because that would balance things out too much? >>she is on message with the rest of her party<< And several Republicans, some of whom are actively sponsoring legislation as a result of this deal. Sorry, but I feel obligated to delineate the exact political alliance critizing this deal, even in threads designed to spotlight Hilllary. I do the work so Doug doesn't have to! ; )
Originally Posted By DlandDug This thread is not a discussion of the Port deal and its critics. This thread is a discussion of Hillary's being "unaware" of Bill's Dubai ties. If we were discussing the Port deal and I made a claim that only Democrats were critical, your point would be well taken. But not only have I NOT made such a claim, the whole issue is not relevant to the discussion at hand.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>This thread is not a discussion of the Port deal and its critics.<< Then you shouldn't have brought it up with an incomplete picture of who is concerned with the deal. But you did, I cleared it up for you, and we can move on.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Then you shouldn't have brought it up with an incomplete picture of who is concerned with the deal. But you did...<< No, I did not. In post #6 I mentioned a salient point about the UAE within the context of the topic at hand. (Bill Clinton's financial relations with the UAE, and Hillary Clinton's reaction.) Nowhere is there any mention of the port deal. >>...I cleared it up for you...<< Far from clearing anything up, an entirely unrelated point about the "deal" (first mentioned in your post #7) was raised, despite the fact that this thread is not a discussion of the port deal. >>...and we can move on.<< I certainly hope so.
