Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Not because of his health, but because $168K doesn't go as far as it used to. <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/17/whitehouse.snow/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITI CS/08/17/whitehouse.snow/index.html</a>
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Not because of his health, but because $168K doesn't go as far as it used to.>> Although that is a good single income, it really isn't all that much for a family income -- especially not in D.C.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer I don't blame him, he has kids, and needs to set up a good nest egg for his wife and a college fund before he has to stop working for health reasons. What does a well know TV commentator make, they start around $500,000 a year and get into 7 figures if you host a popular cable TV prime time show. I presume he will be in the $1 million range per year, plus extra money writing books and speaker fees. So he has a chance to make about 10 times as much money as he is currently. People decide to perform government service as a "service" and/or feel it is their duty to help the country. I wouldn't doubt that Tony Snow took the job because he thought he was needed by the administration, and took a hefty pay cut to work for the government. That was admiral, and now, due to changes in his life, he has had to rethink his priorities. No big deal...
Originally Posted By jonvn Admirable. An admiral is someone who heads a fleet of ships. Can't blame him much either. $168K really doesn't go far, especially when you are used to a much higher salary.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Surely he knew the salary, and what he was giving up, prior to taking this gig. He hosted his own show on Fox, etc. But I think he's done a really terrible job for this administration. His explanations of things were so unbelievable it was ridiculous. Leaving is probably the most admirable thing he could do for his country, he was abysmal.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder While yes, $168K isn't what it seems these days, K2M has it right. He knew the pay going in, and he's been nothing short of abysmal on the job, health scare or not.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Surely he knew the salary, and what he was giving up, prior to taking this gig.> Yes, but he didn't know his cancer was going to come back. <I think he's done a really terrible job for this administration. His explanations of things were so unbelievable it was ridiculous. Leaving is probably the most admirable thing he could do for his country, he was abysmal.> I think he's been a great asset. He's probably the most honest, articulate and intelligent press secretary we've had in a long time.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I think he's been a great asset. He's probably the most honest, articulate and intelligent press secretary we've had in a long time.<< Color me shocked.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "I think he's been a great asset. He's probably the most honest, articulate and intelligent press secretary we've had in a long time." Well of course you would. And that could be why he quit. He couldn't lie anymore. He knew, like everyone else, that it's sinful to perpetuate the fraud that the Veep isn't in the Executive branch.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Color me shocked.> I'm sure you're just as shocked as I was when I read your comments about him.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <And that could be why he quit. He couldn't lie anymore. He knew, like everyone else, that it's sinful to perpetuate the fraud that the Veep isn't in the Executive branch.> Of course, it couldn't be for the reasons actually given. That wouldn't make the Bush administration look bad enough to you guys.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan If Tony Snow told me the sun was in the sky, I'd have to check another source to confirm it. He lies and spins on a daily basis. Maybe he wants to go back to Fox, where they pay higher for such services.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <If Tony Snow told me the sun was in the sky, I'd have to check another source to confirm it. He lies and spins on a daily basis. Maybe he wants to go back to Fox, where they pay higher for such services.> I'll probably feel much the same way if some Democrat ever gets back into the Presidency, although probably not quite, since I'm not that extreme.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip You guys just don't appreciate a job well done. Tony Snow is my favorite Press Secretary after Baghdad Bob.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>extreme<< You know, I used to be more moderate than I am now. In fact, many of the people you wrangle with regularly were moderate to conservative. But like me and a majority of Americans, they've had it with being called unpatriotic for daring to not swallow the stuff this administration spoons out. They've witnessed hubris and ineptitude on a grand scale, and through it all, this administration blames anyone but its own. The list of nonsense this administration has been involved in is long and well-known at this point, so I won't list it all yet again. So yes, I am probably getting pretty extreme in my reactions to just about anything this bunch says or does. Tony Snow is the poster child for the whoppers they tell. I have little "benefit of the doubt" left for the whole lot of them at this point. I don't like what they've done to the country, I disagree with most of their policies, and they have been an utter disappointment, especially the second term, and especially the vice president's shenanighans. C'mon Jan. 20, 2009!
Originally Posted By ecdc Beautifully said, 2oony. It's funny - 6 years ago I would've been horrified at being identified as a Democrat. I'd always prided myself on being moderate and looking at each issue. Now, thanks to George "Mission Accomplished" Bush, I find I even refer to myself as a Democrat sometimes. He is so bad, I've just naturally gravitated that way. I remind people that I voted for him once because I loathe this dismissive approach people like you or me engender. The Bush lackeys assume we're just rabid knee jerk reactionary's who'd hate Bush even if he cured cancer and created world peace. It's just "politics as usual" they say as they roll their eyes impatiently. It's just not true. Bush goes well beyond traditional political dislike that divides along party lines. I guess he really is a uniter! We have very good, well-thought out reasons for despising him, not the least of which is he's the worst President in about a century.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Yes, I'm sure you both agree with every conservative thing the Bush administration has done, and it's just the way they've done it that offends you.
