Originally Posted By ecdc This was on another thread but I thought it could use its own. Multiple times on the O'Reilly Factor, Fox News showed video of Mark Foley and labeled him a Democrat. Intentional or unintentional? I'd argue for unintentional, but a good sign of the extreme bias that exists at Fox News. There's a Congressman who resigns over inappropriate IMs and someone (or someones) assume he's a Democrat.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Intentional or unintentional? I'd argue for unintentional, but a good sign of the extreme bias that exists at Fox News. There's a Congressman who resigns over inappropriate IMs and someone (or someones) assume he's a Democrat.>> You are too kind (and naive). OF COURSE it was intentional. Would a major news organization like FOX make a mistake like that unless it served their editorial viewpoint? No way. Scum... that's what they are. Scum. P.S. I am taking the original post as being factual. I have not heard this personally, so I have no other basis for my response.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Standing behind the glass at the o'reilly show is the executive producer - the person who's job it is to oversee things like that. I have to think it was deliberate - and it does indicate the small mindedness of people who work at fox news.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy It also makes them look stupid once people realize he's a republican.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer ^ So what about the time CNN placed a large X over his face during a live speech? Or having a live mike in the Woman's room while President Bush was giving a speech? <a href="http://newsbusters.org/node/7247" target="_blank">http://newsbusters.org/node/72 47</a> <a href="http://www.drudgereport.com/flashcf.htm" target="_blank">http://www.drudgereport.com/fl ashcf.htm</a>
Originally Posted By SuperDry ^^^ I'm so very glad you brought those items up. I remember seeing those gaffes given prominent coverage on Drudge Report even including screen shots and talk from the usual suspects in these parts. But there's silence on the issue on Drudge on this one. Despite a seeming fixation by Drudge on mistakes by the media, it's almost as if they're interested in them only if they reinforce a particular point of view. Maybe someone could develop a "top 10" list of mainstream media gaffes from the 1970's and 1980's, post them, and think that this is somehow relevant to what's happening this week on Fox News.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer I found out about the "D" on the Drudge Report main page, which had a video still showing the mistake, and a link to a news story regarding the mistake and it was up for at least 24 hours... Also interesting to note that the AP also identified Foley as a Democrat by mistake.... <a href="http://www.reflector-online.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/10/06/4525c29edb5b5" target="_blank">http://www.reflector-online.co m/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/10/06/4525c29edb5b5</a>
Originally Posted By Darkbeer By the way, the original poster said multiple times, and it was just twice... FOX caught it, and the third and additional airings, the mistake was fixed.
Originally Posted By cmpaley >>^ So what about the time CNN placed a large X over his face during a live speech? Or having a live mike in the Woman's room while President Bush was giving a speech?<< You know this stupid right-wing talking point of "well, they do it, toooooooooOOOOOOOoooooo!!!!!" has got to stop! It's irrelevant to the topic at hand and makes you look foolish.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer OF COURSE it was intentional. Would a major news organization like CNN make a mistake like that unless it served their editorial viewpoint? No way. Scum... that's what they are. Scum.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip From Darkbeer's link... <<Therefore, although journalists are human, they should work harder during such a sensitive time and get Foley's party correct-especially Fox News, because its broadcast of the mistake was prerecorded for the air. There's no reason why it couldn't have been corrected.>> Just an honest mistake??
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA The Republicans are now saying 'Let's move on to more important things.' Uh huh. But it's all about the children, right?
Originally Posted By DlandJB "Journalists" today are only interested in breaking the story first. Forget about the facts, just be the first one out there to break the news. You can always retract an error (or say "they must have changed their minds" or something like that) but by, gum you are only "the best" if you are the first. What happened to journalistic integrity? What happened to needing two collaborating sources before printing a story? No, in todays world you have to be fast and do what you can to bring those eyeballs to the screen or the newspaper. Facts, decent editing and integrity take second and third place. It is no wonder that the media is the recipent of such distain these days.
Originally Posted By friendofdd This is all part of the Vast Rightwing Conspiricy. And Everybody know that Fox News does not make mistakes.
Originally Posted By friendofdd Actually, before I make a final opinion, I'd better wait to see what the NY Times says about it.
Originally Posted By alexbook Rule of thumb I try to apply: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." [Not sure who said this first. Maybe H.L. Mencken?]
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> The Republicans are now saying 'Let's move on to more important things.' << I was just in the car listening to rush's first fifteen minutes or so - and that's exactly the 'takeaway' message he was spouting. "This has gone on long enough", "there's no story here", "dems are milking it for election purposes", "we're at war!", and my favorite "europe is laughing at us" - he actually said this. The GOP wants to just wish the whole story away.
Originally Posted By mele <<"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.">> This is a good thought to have while driving.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Hanlon's Razor /prov./ A corollary of Finagle's Law, similar to Occam's Razor, that reads "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." The derivation of the Hanlon eponym is not definitely known, but a very similar remark ("You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity.") appears in "Logic of Empire", a 1941 story by Robert A. Heinlein, who calls it the `devil theory' of sociology. Heinlein's popularity in the hacker culture makes plausible the supposition that `Hanlon' is derived from `Heinlein' by phonetic corruption. A similar epigram has been attributed to William James, but Heinlein more probably got the idea from Alfred Korzybski and other practitioners of General Semantics. Quoted here because it seems to be a particular favorite of hackers, often showing up in sig blocks, fortune cookie files and the login banners of BBS systems and commercial networks. This probably reflects the hacker's daily experience of environments created by well-intentioned but short-sighted people. Compare Sturgeon's Law.>> Source: <a href="http://www.jargon.net/jargonfile/h/HanlonsRazor.html" target="_blank">http://www.jargon.net/jargonfi le/h/HanlonsRazor.html</a>
Originally Posted By mele <<"europe is laughing at us" >> Hmmm, where have I heard *that* one before?
