Originally Posted By skinnerbox I say, "Go for it!" But they *must* leave Austin to us. <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/12/1160873/-Sad-America-loving-conservatives-already-demanding-secession" target="_blank">http://www.dailykos.com/story/...ecession</a> <> Aw, the party of 'Merika has an enormous post-election sad: "In the aftermath of last week's presidential election, residents in at least nineteen states have put up petitions on the government's "We the People" petitioning website seeking the right to secede from the rest of the country. […]" Petitions for secession filed from Louisiana and Texas have already received well over 10,000 signatures. Per the website's own rules, petitions that garner 25,000 signatures or more within 30 days require a response from the Obama administration. Apparently this is the part of the conservative realization that (1) yes, the president is still a scary black man, and (2) nobody in America but them has a problem with that. There's also been some premise going around that Obama's moderateness and centrism the last four years only goes to prove how much he's going to be a crazy secret-Muslim radical during the next four years, and if you can unpack that logic, you've got me beat. I have no idea what they're going on about. Oh, and the Texas version has already topped the 25K threshold, so congratulations, Texas conservatives! You'll be getting a special note from the Obama administration suggesting where you can go! This doesn't seem to be a purely regional thing, since even folks in Oregon and New York are piping up with their own petitions (and really, if you're an Oregon or New York conservative, I feel a good amount of pity for you, I really do). But I've said it before, and I'll say it again: This notion of conservative secession has its merits. Of course, as "True America" we'd want to attach some constraints to the separatists: no nuclear weapons, get your own damn military, and we'll be carving out territory for you that consists entirely of places close to sea level, so that you can ignore climate change from the best possible vantage point. But this sounds pretty doable, once the logistics get worked out. So what are you going to call yourselves? United Galts of America? New Jesusland? That's great, we'll send you a card. <>
Originally Posted By DyGDisney 20 states have petitions going to seceede, and I believe Georgia only needs 4,000 more signatures for the White House to be required to respond. I'm glad I don't live in a state doing this; it would tick me off to know that there are people trying to un-do what was done by the people of our country because they don't agree. Deal with it people! Stop whining and realize that in 4 years you have another chance. Really, what's the point in seceeding? I was looking at a crazy conservative website and it's a bunch of "patriots", AKA racists doing this. Many of the comments came from people who literally think the Civil War was a bad thing and say things like, "The South will rise again." They all have guns and they won't hesitate to use them against their fellow man. Must be Conservative Christians, right? Can you imagine being a non-caucasian living in one of those states...or worse (in their eyes)....a Democrat?!
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>So what are you going to call yourselves? United Galts of America? New Jesusland? << The Confederate States of America has a nice ring to it, and it already comes with a flag.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney And when Texas and Arizona seceede their lovely gun-totin' citizens can line the borders and shoot all the illegal Mexicans trying to cross over into their God-forsaken land. 'Cause folks, this is 'Merica! No immigrants allowed...we've always been white.
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Originally Posted By DyGDisney Ya know, I decided I'm going to sign that petition for Texas to seceede. I've had enough of their whining and talking about taking up arms. I'm sick of it and I'm ready for them to leave. I don't want them in MY America. Our federal gov't can keep their Social Security.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Texas petition has over 80,000 signatures. I think people like me are sick of hearing them complain and are signing it.
Originally Posted By tiggertoo I expected this. It was the election of Lincoln which was the catalyst for southern secession. Also, if anyone has does any serious reading into the economic and political arguments made by southern Democrats preceding and immediately after the Civil War, it's actually almost identical to those made by Republicans today (minus enslavement). Taxation, state's rights, small federal government, and fear of loosing freedoms, et al. The party of Lincoln? *pffft* No, it's the party of Jeff Davis.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney BTW, there is also a petition to sign which asks that the City of Austin be able to stay in the U.S. when Texas sededes.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 If Texas succeeds then the Packers can truly be America's team and not Dallas.
Originally Posted By leobloom After Texas secedes, Austin should secede and become the Vatican of Hipsters. Or is that what it is already?
Originally Posted By Labuda "I say, "Go for it!" But they *must* leave Austin to us." Yeah, I heard about that stupid petition. And I'm with you. Let the REST of Texas secede, but let us in Austin become a state if that happens. Then Rhode Island won't be the smallest anymore. On a serious note, though, I'm actually glad that Gov. Goodhair stepped in and issued a statement saying he "believes in the greatness of our Union and nothing should be done to change it." At least one of the Repubs that are in charge here are willing to step up and tell the crazies to suck it up and deal with it.
Originally Posted By Labuda OH! Link to the petition for Texas to remain a part of the US, please? And, Leo... yes, if I go south of 10th street, I am in the land of hipsters... maybe south of 10th and north of Oltorf... they're in that area en masse. Freaked me out the first time I noticed it, when some friends and I were at a coffee house on 2nd and I saw them all around us. *shudder* They're mostly harmless, though, so it's just unnerving, not scary, to be among them in their natural habitat.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney I signed the petition for Austin to remain part of the United States if Texas secedes. All of the petitions are on www.whitehouse.gov
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Now that pretty much every state has a petition going to secede (America, we look pretty foolish to the rest of the world), I say we let every state secede, form a NEW union together, and have a presidential election where we run Mitt Romney against Barack Obama..... Yeah, that's how stupid we look!
