Originally Posted By alexbook Please, please, PLEASE, will somebody PLEASE post something POSITIVE about ANYBODY!
Originally Posted By mele LOL mawnck. I don't really admire any of the candidates. I just can't. I'm sorry that seems so off-putting. I always feel like I'm voting for the lesser of two evils. So far, I like Obama much more than I liked Kerry but I'm afraid to do too much more digging or I might not be able to stand to vote at all.
Originally Posted By dshyates I admire McCain for his couragous service of the country. I admire Obama for his educational achievements and is service to community when he could have been chasing abulances. I admire Biden for his service to the country in the Senate. And I admire Palin for .......wait, I'll come up with something.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney I don't really admire any of them either. None of the 4 would ever be my choice. I admired Bill Clinton -- He was a great President. I wanted him back in the White House, even if it was as First Husband.
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Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder None. And the poster from post 6 is obviously the troll that was banned the other day.
Originally Posted By dshyates Ohhh,mandy How you came, and you gave, without substance Your cracking me up Ohhh, mandy.....
Originally Posted By RockyMtnMinnie I admire George Washington for having the courage to admit that it was he who chopped down the cherry tree.
Originally Posted By Disneylandspeople >>Please, please, PLEASE, will somebody PLEASE post something POSITIVE about ANYBODY!<< >And the poster from post 6 is obviously the troll < PLEASE KEEP THIS A POSITIVE PLACE TO POST,
Originally Posted By Dabob2 It's either woody or Beau, having run out of non-banned sock puppets, creating a new one just today. And yes, I admire Obama. I don't admire every single thing about him, but in general, yeah. He's extremely intelligent, extremely thoughtful, cool-headed (which is what you want as a president, not a hothead), he could have cashed in big time after he graduated but instead he helped struggling Americans deal with their problems for very little pay, he's withstood vicious rumors and attacks that dwarf anything leveled against Palin, and I think he really does want to re-balance the playing field more towards the average man and woman again. And he was right about what a mess Iraq would be, when that was a very unpopular position to hold.
Originally Posted By DAR Here's part of Obama admitting the surge has worked. All right. Let's go to Iraq. I think history will show it's the wrong battlefield, OK? And I think that you were perspicacious in your original assessment of the battlefield. OBAMA: I appreciate that. O'REILLY: I think you were desperately wrong on the surge, and I think you should admit it to the nation that now we have defeated the terrorists in Iraq, and the Al Qaeda came there after we invaded, as you know. We defeated them. OBAMA: Right. O'REILLY: If we didn't, they would have used it as a staging ground. We've also inhibited Iran from controlling the southern part of Iraq by the surge, which you did not support. So why won't you say, "I was right in the beginning. I was wrong about that"? OBAMA: If you listen to what I've said, and I'll repeat it right here on this show, I think that there's no doubt that the violence is down. I believe that that is a testimony to the troops that were sent and General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker. I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated, by the way, including President Bush and the other supporters. It has gone very well, partly because of the Anbar situation and the Sunni awakening, partly because of the Shia military. Look... O'REILLY: But if it were up to you, there wouldn't have been a surge. OBAMA: Look... O'REILLY: No, no, no, no. OBAMA: No, no, no... O'REILLY: If it were up to you, there wouldn't have been a surge. OBAMA: No, no, no. O'REILLY: You and Joe Biden, no surge. OBAMA: Hold on a second, Bill. If you look at the debate that was taking place, we had gone through five years of mismanagement of this war that I thought was disastrous. And the president wanted to double down and continue on an open-ended policy that did not create the kinds of pressure on the Iraqis to take responsibility and reconcile. O'REILLY: But it worked. It worked. Come on. OBAMA: Bill, what I've said is — I've already said it succeed beyond our wildest dreams. O'REILLY: Why can't you say, "I was right in the beginning, and I was wrong about the surge"? OBAMA: Because there's an underlying problem where what have we done. We have reduced the violence. O'REILLY: Yes. OBAMA: But the Iraqis still haven't taken responsibility, and we still don't have the kind of political reconciliation. We are still spending, Bill, $10 to $12 billion a month. O'REILLY: And I hope if you're president, you can get them to kick in and pay us back. OBAMA: They've got $79 billion. O'REILLY: I'll go with you. OBAMA: Let's go. O'REILLY: We'll get some of that money back.
Originally Posted By dshyates "Though he has admitted the surge worked." The surge has worked at reducing violence, but that is half way to the goals of the surge. It hasn't been a success yet. The best you can say is its working. I'm not holding my breath on political reconsiliation between Sunni and Shia. Which is the end goal of the surge, and the whole post war debacle. So until Sunni and Shia are working as one, the surge hasn't "worked".
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy The surge has only worked to fatten the pocketbooks of defense contractors working in Iraq. They have no desire for us to ever withdraw there, neither does the Iraqi government. They are too fat on U.S. dollars being dumped in their laps everyday.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<They have no desire for us to ever withdraw there, neither does the Iraqi government.>> You must have missed all the news about the Iraqi government pushing Bush for a withdrawal time table. I swear, you guys make this stuff up as you go along.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 The surge was supposed to: a). reduce violence; b). due to the reduced violence, create space for a political reconciliation. Even Bush at the time said that without political reconciliation, any gains would be temporary. Well, the violence was reduced (and only partly due to the surge), which was pretty much a gimme - more cops on the street will usually result in less wrongdoing. But the second part hasn't happened. So what McCain and the others have done is move the goalposts. "Violence is down! The surge has worked!" Well, no. Its purpose was to reduce violence SO THAT political reconciliation could happen. It has not fulfilled its primary purpose, but they say it "worked" anyway.
Originally Posted By tiggertoo Here's a few 2008 presidential candidates that I personally admire(d): Ron Paul Joe Biden, Bill Richardson John McCain (pre-March 2008) Barack Obama
