Michael Brown During A Crisis

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    Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder

    Is anybody following this? This stuff is incredible. What a jerk.

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    Originally Posted By TomSawyer

    "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job!"
     
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    Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder

    I was actually repulsed when I read this article. If there is a way to charge and punish Brown, it needs to be done.
     
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    Originally Posted By Disneyman55

    This moment of sadness was brought to you by the Fraternal Order of Wrong Person in Wrong Job, where we specialize in putting incompetent and inexperienced people in positions of high authority.

    For further references, don't call us, we will call you.
     
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    Originally Posted By wonderingalice

    The e-mails are horrendous... Particularly his response to the offer of some major medical-field assistance... "Can we use these people?"

    DUUUUHHHHH! What a clown.
     
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    Originally Posted By wonderingalice

    Oh... And the wardrobe bits. Nice to see his social life continued as normal during the crisis. Jerk.
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandDug

    I have been trying in vain to find a link to the Daily Show report about the emails he exchanged with his man inside the Superdome. When informed that the situation was desperate, Brown had an underling send a detailed email in reply, explaining that all requests had to be sent earlier in the day, as the restaurants in Baton Rouge were just reopening, and the Director had to make early reservations.

    The underling's actual response (read on air by Stewart) was:
    I just finished an MRE and am now going to take a dump in the hallway of the Superdome with 30,000 close friends.

    Stewart had to explain that this was a real email-- not a comedy bit from his writers.
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    I don't know why this is a surprise. The "M" in FEMA stands for management. What do people expect from people in big government management?
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    Competence?
     
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    Originally Posted By TomSawyer

    Management
     
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    Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder

    Okay, the big question- who takes responsibility for putting Brown in place? Bush has already "taken responsibility" for the government's poor response to Katrina. But to what end? if I hired someone this horrible I'd lose my job. Vetting, anyone? Brown got confirmed, so the Senate didn't do such a hot job here either. But doesn't make a case for examining every nominee from this Administration that comes down the pike? Is cronyism a fatal disease in the White House? Samuel Alito almost seems like an aberration, as well as John Roberts. Harriet Miers was more like a Brown pick. And did anyone note who headed FEMA before Brown? The guy who ran Bush's 2000 campaign. Unless one is willing to call the campaign a disaster, what experience did THAT guy have that would make hima good person for FEMA? Doesn't anybody here know how to play this game?
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    Running a campaign requires good management. It's about putting resources where they'd do the most good. FEMA is a management agency. It's no surprise that people thought that a person who did a good job managing a campaign could do a good job managing an emergency.
     
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    Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder

    Appples and oranges Douglas. Some subject related job expereience would seem to be mandatory. Just because someone can manage a show store doesn't make then eligibile to run FEMA. Seems to me that a high ranking miitary officer would be better suited (such as they eventually did) as opposed to giving cronies jobs where they could be responsible for countless lives, and show horse lives obviously don't count.
     
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    Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder

    show store= shoe store
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    by the seashore.
     
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    Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder

    sho' nuff.
     
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    Originally Posted By TomSawyer

    >>It's no surprise that people thought that a person who did a good job managing a campaign could do a good job managing an emergency.<<

    Emergency management and campaign management are two different things.

    In emergency management, you're trying to help people as quickly as possible. In campaign management, all you're worried about is how this will affect the image of the candidate.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    LOL, 2oony!

    (BTW, 2oony, I just got to watch my copy of the Golden Doobies and you presenting me in absentia with the Pluto Award for the W.E. stuff. Many thanks for all your kind words, and for your presentation, which was much funnier and classier than I - and arguably W.E. - deserved.)
     
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    Originally Posted By itsme

    Hey there was no crimes here!

    There were no laws broke!

    What would you have done!

    You got no ideas, you lose!
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    <Emergency management and campaign management are two different things.>

    So the only person qualified to be director of FEMA is the director of FEMA?
     

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