Originally Posted By X-san Obama winning out just sort of got me to thinking...is it a societal dictate that black people will win out before women as a general rule? An old history teacher of mine (a woman) said as much when I was young, so many, many years ago. She stated unequivocally, "we will have a black president before we have a woman president". She cited the fact that black people were afforded the right to vote before women were, along with a whole bunch of other factoids that I no longer recall (she had a whole long list though). So, is this a truism? Is there some reason behind it? I'm just wondering. AND, of course, it could be completely irrelevant. It's just interesting that when the FIRST major race came about in terms of putting forth the first truly viable black candidate AND (at the same time, interestingly) the first viable female candidate, the black guy won. Again, maybe circumstantial, but I think it's worth discussing.
Originally Posted By Mrs ElderP Hmmm... certainly it seems to be the rule. I do know that one (and only one of many) arguments that women made when agitating for the vote here in the US is that they should be able to vote so that white middle class women could "dilute" the vote of poor black men. (How the votes of poor black women entered into it I don't know, it was their arguement, not mine.) Perhaps race is a difference of degrees and gender is a difference of kind? Perhaps it was just this black man and this white woman? That we'll never know.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper ^Agreed. I think it is more likely that Hillary is out because she is married to a guy named Bill...who happened to be President a couple of terms ago.
Originally Posted By Elderp I guess this means we are not seeing a hispanic getting a shot for awhile, we come after both of them.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad Of course the ENTITE topic goes out the window as moot when McCain wins. I guess your pecking order will include the rooster its currently missing.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad Oh and your black male vs white female excludes many states where the woman won, not to mention you only include non-GOP'ers as well. I am thinking your argument or generalization is flawed and further testing of the theory is necessary.
