I say shut down WE

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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    I've been thinking about this and maybe this section should be shut down for an undisclosed amount of time. It's been proven that most of these topics degenerate into the same name calling, from everybody. I mostly read in here, but do post once in a while. But maybe it'll do the site some good to get rid of this section. I'm sure that's easier said than done, but something needs to be done.
     
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    Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy

    I'm just glad it's here for those who want to come here. I'll pretty much stick to other topics elsewhere.
     
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    Originally Posted By Beaumandy

    Don't like the section, don't post here or read it. Why have it shut down?

    Because it's not niiiice enough?

    Seems to me that only a few people are whining. If you think this section is bad now you should have seen it during the 2004 election and when gay marriage was first sprung on us.

    Those were good times.
     
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    Originally Posted By LucyInTheSky

    We can't simply just shut things like this down, shut all the world discussion down and we make no progress communicating as humans. I say LP should just make it for 18 and over only, and then the admin should not moderate this section at all.

    MODERATING FREE SPEECH? BAH!
     
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    Originally Posted By Beaumandy

    <<I'm just glad it's here for those who want to come here. I'll pretty much stick to other topics elsewhere.>>

    This is the right attitude in my opinion.
     
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    Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy

    <Because it's not niiiice enough?>

    Well this *is* a Disney site...it would be nice if only niceness were allowed, lol.
     
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    Originally Posted By Beaumandy

    << I say LP should just make it for 18 and over only, and then the admin should not moderate this section at all.

    MODERATING FREE SPEECH? BAH!>>

    I think there should be rules about language and swear words. I also think you should never threaten anyone. But to unload on someone who says somthing totally stupid? That should be fair game in this section.

    That also applies to me if I say something stupid. Bring it on.
     
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    Originally Posted By sherrytodd

    I was just wondering that. I came here because it was a Disney site. What is the point of having political fights in a Disney site. Go to a political site.
     
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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    <<MODERATING FREE SPEECH? BAH!>>

    There's no free speech here, if there was then there wouldn't be community standards.
     
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    Originally Posted By Beaumandy

    TDG, you will NEVER see me being snippy or mean to someone in the DL section no matter what they say. In those sections on here, it is the Laughing Place. Besides if you LOVE DCA or you think the Thunder Mountain sucks, that really doesn't hurt anyone.
     
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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    <<Don't like the section, don't post here or read it. Why have it shut down?

    Because it's not niiiice enough?

    Seems to me that only a few people are whining. If you think this section is bad now you should have seen it during the 2004 election and when gay marriage was first sprung on us.

    Those were good times.>>

    Beau don't think it's a little ridiculous that at least four or five topics have been shut down in the last few days.

    And besides Beau, you could always post in the Disneyland Paris section since I know you've got a trip planned there. ;)
     
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    Originally Posted By Beaumandy

    LOL, Ohhhhh yeahh... I am going to France?? Actually I would love to see DL Paris.

    YOu also have a point about all the threads being shut down. Just when things are getting fun, BOOM.. thread shut down.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    I think a haitus for this section is a great idea, DDMAN. Let everyone cool down for awhile, give the poor admins a break. Maybe (maybe) launch it fresh next fall, with a zero-tolerance policy for intentionally or continually violating community standards. And after a certain amount of warnings, adios to that poster for good.

    Then maybe we could have some actual discussions, instead of all the nonsense.
     
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    Originally Posted By Liberty Belle

    I strongly dislike WE, but the section being here doesn't bother me. I just stick to the other topics, like TDG said and don't go in here unless a topic catches my eye. If I do go to a WE topic, I know what to expect.
     
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    Originally Posted By Beaumandy

    Trying to sterilize a section that covers politics and religion makes for people not really speaking what is on their minds. It's classic PC nonsense that shuts down people's right to express how they really feel.

    There should no rules about saying how you feel in this section as long as you don't threaten anyone or use foul language.

    If someone says Bush is a terrorist, I should be able to tell them how stupid that is and WHY it is stupid.

    If they get their feelings hurt because their silly comment got blasted then so be it. Welcome to the real world. There is no rule in America that says you are protected from being offended.
     
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    Originally Posted By alexbook

    A couple of times today, I've surfed by the World Events topic list page and it's said there were no posts and no topics (and no, I didn't have "Only Show Topics with New Messages" checked). Each time, I refreshed a few times and the topic list came back. Makes me wonder if this section really is on the verge of some sort of meltdown.
     
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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    <<Welcome to the real world. There is no rule in America that says you are protected from being offended.>>

    Beau you know if you and I were at a bar having a few cold one's I would have no problem giving the liberals heck. ;) But the real world doesn't apply here.
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    it's one thing to have a discussion, it's another to fling insults at them
     
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    Originally Posted By Beaumandy

    DDMAN, I hear ya. I also feel your frustration that you can't have any thread go anywhere anymore without it etting shut down because it wasn't niiiice enough. But to shut the section down?


    <<it's one thing to have a discussion, it's another to fling insults at them>>


    Disagreement is not throwing insults. If someons says something stupid, they should be ready to get called on it.

    Like today when you said the Air America writer's story was junk. You get nailed for that from a few people, but were you really insulted or just challenged?

    And for the record jon, you were the original insulting poster ever on this site. Now you come back and ask why people can't be civil? Please...
     
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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

    <We can't simply just shut things like this down, shut all the world discussion down and we make no progress communicating as humans. I say LP should just make it for 18 and over only, and then the admin should not moderate this section at all.

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    I think I stated in another thread that I used to participate in 2 yahoo financial board -- you REALLY don't want to see how bad things can get. 90%+ of the financial boards are the same topics as here - not company business...and the wretchedness is so far over the top - ( and no language barrier) - you'd be stunned.

    I think the best thing is what I did, I took 6 months off of WE- then when I came back I found myself with far more patience to skip over some responses not worth respoding to. During the pre election stuff -- it was even worse IMHO.

    As far as stopping this side or that side from speaking their minds..not for it as if most people are like me we surround ourselves daily with mainly people who think similarly to the way we do...it's a good reminder sometimes of the thought processes of others...no matter how frustrating.

    but if WE did go away, I would just stick to the other sections I frequent anyway.... but as a Disney related site, I don't want to see this unmoderated.
     
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