Originally Posted By mawnck First of all, I don't have cable, so I didn't know about this clip until this morning. Second of all, although I often agree with her positions, I am not a big fan of Rachel Maddow. I don't care much for her 'tude, and think she lets partisanship trump common sense at times. However, the clip I'm fixin' to link to so PERFECTLY expresses my feelings about this election, and 2012 conservatism in general, that I want everybody to watch it. EVERYBODY. Especially Romney's supporters. All 16 minutes of it. It may be one of the most intelligent 16 minutes ever broadcast, and the point she makes is SO important to the future of this country. If you can't spare that much time, at least read the quote in the accompanying article, which is from late in the clip. <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/08/rachel-maddow-republicans-shellacked-election-night_n_2092290.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...290.html</a>
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <It may be one of the most intelligent 16 minutes ever broadcast, and the point she makes is SO important to the future of this country.> I really like Rachel Maddow. Smart as a whip, for starters. Sometimes gets caught up in minutia but usually focuses on things that matter. (I was impressed that her first book wasn't a quickie serving of red meat to her fans, but a scholarly and important look at military policy and how easy it has become to go to war. If you haven't read "Drift," you should). Also, she's always respectful to her guests and never talks over them either. Now granted, it's the rare conservative who dares go on her show and get rhetorically de-pants by her (politely but firmly), but they're always being invited and if she does get one, she's invariable respectful, unlike what O'Reilly or Hannity et al do to their guests (and someone like Olbermann too, to be fair). Yes, she can sometimes cross the line from smart to smartass, but a). not always, and b). sometimes her targets deserve it, like the people profiled in this piece.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Sadly she's speaking to the choir. The old paranoid white people who can't break away from Fox News are the ones who should be watching this.
Originally Posted By mawnck More "PO'd Dumb Republican" self-humiliation, as seen on Twitter: Kristen Neel: I'm moving to Australia, because their president is a Christian and actually supports what he says. Ian Cuthbertson: Our prime minister is a woman, an atheist who lives with a man she hasn't married. I don't think you'd like it here. <a href="http://gawker.com/5958923/australia-twitter+shames-the-crap-out-of-random-teen-who-threatens-to-move-down-under-after-obama-win" target="_blank">http://gawker.com/5958923/aust...bama-win</a>
Originally Posted By mawnck Aaand more. Wow. Just wow. <a href="http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/11/eric-dondero-boycott-democrat-libertarian.html" target="_blank">http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2...ian.html</a>
Originally Posted By skinnerbox From the article: <> A Democratic family member is dying of cancer. He wants you to come visit him in the hospital, which is within walking distance, before he passes. Do you go? No. Read my original piece. I'm done with any and all Democrats in my life for good. And trust me on this. I've just had a pretty intense experience with someone close to me today, someone I've known since childhood. It's hard for me not to respond to this person. Very, very hard. But so far, I've held. If there is one person out there who I would break down my rule for it is this person. Lifelong friend. East Coast in fact. It's been 24 hours and I'm still holding strong. this person read the original piece I wrote. The email response from this individual sits in my in-box. I almost responded twice today. Even started writing the reply. But I pulled back. I am truly hoping that this person sends me an email with the following message in the Subject line: I have left the Democrat Party and will never vote Democrat again. <> I hope the guy receives an email back with the following subject line: "I have reassessed our friendship and will never associate with a hateful arse-wipe psychotic like you again."
Originally Posted By SuperDry I don't normally watch Rachel Maddow, and am certainly not a fan of hers. But she hit it out of the park with this one.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 My favorite tweet in response to #7: "Not one word of that sentence is true. I'm not even angry, I'm impressed."
Originally Posted By ecdc And now, the reports come in about how stunned and, to use a close aide's word, "shellshocked" Mitt Romney was that he lost. Paul Ryan was apparently completely flabbergasted. Both men's wives cried. Look, anyone who runs for office has to keep hope. They have to believe they can win, even down to the last day. But there's a big difference between optimism and delusion, and, as Maddow so accurately points out, the GOP has been wallowing in total self-delusion for years now. It's time they join the rest of us in reality.
Originally Posted By Tikiduck But the GOP is not about reality, the GOP has turned into a cult. Democrats are to them what an infidel would be in Mecca. Hatred, delusion and denial, it's all there.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 But there's a big difference between optimism and delusion, and, as Maddow so accurately points out, the GOP has been wallowing in total self-delusion for years now.<< If anyone would know about self-delusion, it's Rachel Maddow....
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 How so? Seems just a lazy "so's your mother" type of response.<< While deployed, my lunch time at the chow hall always coincided with her show, so I basically watched her for an entire year, I found her viewpoints delusional as she rarely even considers an alternate way of thinking, is ultra liberal, and is really snarky and egotistical. I also got to watch Keith Olbermann on occasion and and I found him to be a little bit more sensible. Now I consider all of the "talking heads" from Beck to O Reily to Maddow to be idiots, but she is in a league of her own.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< If anyone would know about self-delusion, it's Rachel Maddow.... >>> Setting the year that you watched her at lunch aside and looking only at the 15-minute clip posted in this thread, what do you think of her?
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<I found her viewpoints delusional as she rarely even considers an alternate way of thinking, is ultra liberal, and is really snarky and egotistical.>> Have you ever once tried verifying Dr. Maddow's information? It is 99% accurate. And when it's not, she apologizes and makes a retraction as soon as the correct info is known. I've heard many conservatives complain about Rachel's attitude. I can't help but wonder if it's because she's not a dude. For some reason, most of the conservative men in this nation can't stand progressive, intelligent, well educated women. They can make all kinds of excuses for the snarky gorgeous women on Fox News, but they hate Dr. Maddow. Hmm... maybe it's because she's also a lesbian? Could be. But I don't agree with your observation at all.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt She's snarky because, well, what other way is there be when discussing the stupidity of today's Republican party? How else can one discuss the birther movement or legitimate rape or Mitt Romney's habitual lying? I'm exhausted by the likes of Karl Rove, Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, Michelle Bachmann along with the dimwits who believe the BS they spew through conservative media channels. I'd say Rachel Maddow's snark is pretty nice considering how truly despicable these people are.
