Originally Posted By donnyaz My church asked it's members to put together any tools and lumber it could to help the people of Haiti we had one week to fill a Mayflower truck parked in the front of the church.I didn't think we would fill it but as soon as other churches herd of what my church was up to the truck was filled in less then a week with tool boxes,lumber and so much more.I love to see people of different faiths get together to help people in need.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Agreed, I prefer it when it happens without faith and just as a good community intervention. But either way, awesome job!
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I prefer it when it happens without faith and just as a good community intervention.<< Why?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder ">>I prefer it when it happens without faith and just as a good community intervention.<< Why?" I agree. Why? Fine and dandy that some people question faith, but after a while, it's mor elike, okay, I get it, but pick something with a bit more import to make your point. Who really cares if it took a church and faith to help Haiti? Good for them? What did it hurt thatit was, for thelack of a better term, faith based? Leave them be once in a while. It comes across as "I'd rather you didn't brag about believing in God." Well, the obvious counter is "I'd rather you didn't brag about not believing." Who gets to decide who wins there? In this case, faith helped foment a good thing. Leave them be for a change.
Originally Posted By donnyaz I guess what I was trying to show is people from many diffrent faiths came together to help our little L.D.S. church do a good deed.On my mission I did see people abuse thier charity to force the gospel down a starving mouth but I can tell you that was the rare exception and not the rule.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Yeah, donny that's the only time I question church-based charity (obviously, as my own church does a ton of charity); IMO if there are strings attached, including religious strings, then it's not really a gift from your heart. If you want to evangelize at another time, fine; but not as a precondition to feeding someone hungry.
Originally Posted By mawnck >> If you want to evangelize at another time, fine; but not as a precondition to feeding someone hungry.<< +1.
Originally Posted By pecos bill The title comes off as a bit exclusive, as if people of faith are the only ones privy to the "blessings" of doing the right thing. At any rate, your group has every right to be proud, as does everybody, faith or not, who has contributed to Haiti relief.
Originally Posted By donnyaz If my title made you at all uncomfortable please understand that I dont care.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>The title comes off as a bit exclusive, as if people of faith are the only ones privy to the "blessings" of doing the right thing.<< My thought too. Why use that title to talk about your church donating? Why not say "My Church Donated to Haiti" and then share the story in the Community section? Instead we get "Blessed to be a Person of Faith" in World Events, then people wonder why non-believers make comments? Seriously? I'm so fed up with the hypocrisy that wants non-believers to walk on eggshells when they share what they think. Richard Dawkins sets up a secular charity to donate to Haiti and he's criticized for "rubbing people's noses in Atheism." Is there anyway or anything a non-believer can do that expresses their disbelief that won't piss people off? Or are we just permitted to exist as long as we keep our traps shut about how we feel about religion? Meanwhile, talking about how wonderful it is to be a person of faith is A-ok. Gotcha.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "If my title made you at all uncomfortable please understand that I dont care." See, here's the thing. I can't remember when donnyaz hasn't written something that I wanted to ridicule. Today, he wrote something I thought was okay, and I even sort of defended him. Then I saw he's LDS. Oh-oh, I thought. Then I saw this post. What a surprise. Nevermind donnyaz, your membership in a corporate cult trumps any goodwill you might have engendered today. And I know you don't care. Take your apathy, add an equal amount of disgust and scorn, multiply by infinity, and you might begin to scratch the surface with how I feel about Mormons.
Originally Posted By ecdc Imagine if I'd started a thread that said "Fortunate to be a Person Without Faith" and then told the story of Atheists donating to Haiti. Would everyone just say "Good for you!" and keep quiet about the non-believer angle? Bet an AP that wouldn't happen. Instead we'd get a slew of, "Well what does being a non-believer have to do with it? MY church donated to Haiti!" Hence the hypocrisy.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "I love to see people of different faiths get together to help people in need." What were the other faiths?
Originally Posted By donnyaz The other faiths were Baptist and a Christian church I think is assembly of God.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones It would have been more impressive if you coordinated your efforts with a Muslim church.
Originally Posted By Mr X "If my title made you at all uncomfortable please understand that I dont care." And there goes any scrap of goodwill engendered by the OP, and we are left with yet another "all hail my Mormon righteousness!" thread. Yawn. Out of curiosity, are ALL the right wing extremists here Mormons? Sure seems that way (Douglas?). With all the negative sentiment here towards Mormons, I have to wonder what it is they're all doing here (though the OP title and defiant defense of it says a lot about the real reasons, I'd say).
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Or a Satanic church*** An atheist, a Mormon, and a Satanic Priest walk into a bar...
