Originally Posted By vbdad55 Maybe some of the clearer minded people here that are right of center can focus on this and maybe there'll actually be two way conversatons here again, instead of obnxiouslyness like this nonsense and bashing of far right wing trolls -- feel free to discuss - I am wthdrawing after a whopping one week back -- funny after a post where I praised the job Rahm Emmanuel is doing in Chicago- but you know- I'll just a bitter dumb arse conservative according to one poster. back to WDW threads.. ------------------------- <<this is the reason why moderates don't stay here long>> Really? I thought it was because you folks don't like the fact that WE has flipped to mostly progressive since Obama won the White House. We liberals in WE had to put up with a conservative majority on the boards when Bush was in the White House. Now that the tables have turned in our favor politically, you conservatives are all upset because somehow, we liberals are now treating you poorly on the boards. Give me a break. We weren't treated well during the Bush years, but we're supposed to forget all that and now treat you overly sensitive conservatives with kid gloves. Boo hoo cry me a river.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Do you actually expect me to apologize for this? Why should I? I am not going to apologize for my statement, given what I've seen from conservative posters on WE for the past two years. You are now in the minority in WE, as a conservative. Liberals were in the minority on WE during Bush's reign of terror for two terms. We were treated like dog food by the conservatives such as Douglas and Beau and DB, yet we stuck around and participated anyway. The so-called lame treatment you claim to be getting from posters like me, because you're not a liberal, pales in comparison to the trash talk we got daily from the conservative posters who supported Bush and his flying monkeys on everything they did. Seriously... you're getting far better treatment overall from us than we ever got from the conservatives. Good day and thanks for playing. (Don't let the WE door hit you on the way out.)
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<What prompted this?>> Idiocy regarding politics. As usual. Someone was claiming to be 'moderate' while espousing convenient and continuous defenses of conservative ideology, which was topped off with an example of a "flip-flopping" politician. The first example of a flip-flopper that came to his mind was Kerry, even though that happened YEARS ago. I pointed out John McCain, who recently flipped on DADT in the past year. And as Dabob pointed out, Kerry actually did change his position and belief. He didn't "flip" as the GOP kept telling the American voters in 2004, ad nauseum. McCain, OTOH, basically lied about supporting the repeal of DADT if the Generals changed their minds about repeal. When they did so and recommended repeal, McCain acted as though he never stated he would. It was one of the biggest flips in our recent political history, yet vbdad stated that Kerry was the one that stuck in his mind the most. When I "questioned" why it was that Kerry was his first thought instead of McCain -- picking a Dem instead of a Republican -- he got all defensive and huffy, proclaiming that the attitude of progressives on these boards towards moderates was why the moderates weren't sticking around. (Of course, it has more to do with Dems in DC and that progressives now outnumber moderates and conservatives on WE, but most of them will steadfastly refuse to admit it.) That's what prompted this, my good Doctor. And for the record... I still refuse to apologize for sticking up for the liberals after what we endured by conservative posters in the past. If the moderate and conservative posters can't handle the heat, then they can leave. Just as they were telling us liberals to do, during the Bush years.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Two wrongs don't make a right, SB, even a "lesser" wrong. We shouldn't take our cues from people like Beau and DD, or justification for being disrespectful just because they were worse. vbdad55 treats other people respectfully and deserves the same in return. If you disagree with a point he's making, fine. Disagree, say why, back it up... but enough with lumping all conservatives together and all that, huh? vbdad, I hope you'll stick around.
Originally Posted By MissCandice Whether you are conservative, moderate or far-left (like me!) we should all be polite to each other.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<And for the record... I still refuse to apologize for sticking up for the liberals after what we endured by conservative posters in the past.>> You endured NOTHING from vbdad. It is unfair to hold him responsible for the rantings of someone like Beau. I don't think I've ever seen a vbdad post that personally attacked someone whereas you do all the time. But I'm also sure vbdad would never expect an apology from one of LP's most abrasive posters.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox So perhaps I overreacted. It happens. But I also believe vbdad overreacted as well. I'm not the only person in this squabble who got their boxers in a bunch.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Maybe so. So let's all just take a deep breath and virtually shake hands, huh?
Originally Posted By skinnerbox I will virtually shake hands, only if someone with more energy than I can muster could explain to vbdad why the GOP koolaid he's been drinking regarding public unions is wrong. Then it's a deal. ecdc... you up for the challenge? Here's his comment from another thread: "The only people who will be able to afford to go here exxept the uber elite will be government workers/ teachers and union workers who all will have pensions so grandma and grandpa can take the family since the taxpayers are covering pensions that are actuarilly unsound and bankrupting the states and feds. When private sector pensions were removed 10-12 years ago who cried for us Argentina ? No one. What party do the overwhelming majority of these people vote for ? Hint- it's not the one you mention. Both parties are bankrupting this country in different ways - both have their own 'elite' groups... but you choose one to single out -- really, you know better than that. show me someone in power in Washington- either party who is for the middle class --" Truthfully, this is what set me off. I didn't realize he actually believed this crap to this extent.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I still don't agree with the majority of people on the boards, but as part of the more mellow persona I've simply chosen to pick and chose my battles here.
Originally Posted By mele Yeah, I find that I'm choosing to battle less and less. Unless it's about those gd Canucks.
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Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Can we all vote on the most handsome and most beautiful out of the 12 left wing nuts?
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 Well, I have never actually met any LPers in person, but the Witches of Morva seem to think Dr. Hans is quite the catch. I guess I'll take their word for it.
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Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Jenn, I can vouch for Hans. He always looks like he should be posing for GQ magazine.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 Hans it is then, for most handsome. Part of my problem in voting in your poll Constance is that I often (even though I have been on here a while) can't tell if a poster is male or female
