Originally Posted By TomSawyer <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/man-whose-wmd-lies-led-to-100000-deaths-confesses-all-7606236.html" target="_blank">http://www.independent.co.uk/n...236.html</a> The guy who gave the US all of the WMD intelligence in the lead up to Iraq has admitted to lying in order to topple Saddam's regime. He said that the US intelligence agencies "sexed up" his evidence, even altering some photos he took so the intelligence matched the politics of what the Bush administration wanted to do. What the hell has happened to this country?
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Thank you. This falsified information led to the downfall of our country in my eyes and the eyes of the world. 3000 American lives lost does not equal 100,000 deaths of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan. We just aren't more important than anyone else, and Bush's people didn't care.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Wow, this counts as news? We knew 8 years ago the evidence was fabricated...Nothing new there...
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Well, some of the details are indeed new. Beyond that, it's useful to remember how this happened. And to remember how willfully blind some people insist on being; most of this has indeed been known for a while - but when some of us brought up "Curveball" and "fixing the intelligence around the policy," the Beaus of the board would accuse of us supporting Sadaam, and the DD's would just say "no, it wasn't." It's also useful to remember as we start hearing the drumbeat from the GOP about war with Iran.
Originally Posted By Lisann22 It counts as news to people who lost loved ones all over the world. It counts as news to those plotting our demise. It counts as news... I could go on and on.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan And it's worth remembering as some beat the drum to go to war with Iran.
Originally Posted By barboy "This man's lies led to 100,000 deaths" ..........BUT, maybe his lies prevented 112,000 deaths under Saddam giving him a net gain of 12K. We'll never know. Anyways, his lies and the warhawk machine under Bush/Cheney as well as those democratic invertebrates on Capitol Hill should sicken anyone. The US should have kept its full scale military fingers out of global affairs since 1939.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< ..........BUT, maybe his lies prevented 112,000 deaths under Saddam giving him a net gain of 12K. We'll never know.>>> ... except that we have historical information on what Saddam's regime did. I seem to recall an estimated figure of about 1,400 "extra-judicial" deaths by Saddam's security forces per year in order to maintain a sufficient amount of domestic terror to remain in power. There's no reason to believe that number to be terribly inaccurate, nor that it would have skyrocketed all of a sudden. As such, the 100,000 deaths caused by the "coalition" action is of tremendous scale.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <And to remember how willfully blind some people insist on being; most of this has indeed been known for a while - but when some of us brought up "Curveball" and "fixing the intelligence around the policy," the Beaus of the board would accuse of us supporting Sadaam, and the DD's would just say "no, it wasn't."> Please stop lying about me.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh A few "No it wasn't" is a little different than just "No it wasn't", and any honest person would agree.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh "Once a jerk, always a jerk." You and a few other posters prove that daily.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <A few "No it wasn't" is a little different than just "No it wasn't", and any honest person would agree.> If a person could even figure out what the hell you think you're saying by parsing it like that. All I said it that when faced with evidence of the Bush admin. fixing the intelligence around the policy, as the Brits put it, you would say "no, it wasn't." Sometimes you'd elaborate, sometimes you wouldn't. Either way, you were wrong.
