Originally Posted By Labuda Ok, so... I admit to clicking a link so I could read about Margaret Cho saying Mama Grizzly forced her unwed easy daughter to do Dancing With the Stars and then reading Teen Mom's response so I could marvel at the idiocy. Good news is this: I was not denied my reward. Here's a direct quote from Teen Mom: "there were a number of reasons President Obama won in 2008, but the primary reason was that the economy was starting to falter and the majority of voters thought Obama could do a better job than my mom and John McCain. It turns out, two years later, the majority of voters were wrong, but we can talk about that another time." Anyone else think that McCain/Palin would have done a better job with the economy? source of the quote here: <a href="http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/12/06/bristol-palin-margaret-cho-dancing-with-the-stars/" target="_blank">http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/12...e-stars/</a>
Originally Posted By Mr X That's actually a smarter comment than her Mom is capable of making. The President DID win handily as a result of the crash (falter? er, more than that Bristol)...whether he'd have won if things crashed later (or even earlier) is a subject for debate, but it seems to me things would've been a good bit closer in any case. As for "the majority of voters were wrong" assumes a lot, but doesn't make her stupid, per se. Maybe things *would've* been better with McCain as President. We'll never know. But certainly the majority of voters, 2 years later, were extremely pissed off at the job that President Obama and his Democratic Congress have done, for whatever reason (I'm not saying I agree with said voters, I'm just pointing out the fact that they ripped the President a new one). I don't really see anything stupid about her comments in this case Anne. Sorry. *shrugs*
Originally Posted By Mr X If I were to posit a GUESS though, I'd say that a McCain Presidency, thus far, wouldn't have been all that different...the wars and guantanamo would've been pretty much the same (prediction is so hard though, the powerful Democratic Congress might have fought President McCain on the wars tooth and nail and perhaps even forced a quicker conclusion to Iraq somehow). DADT would've been off the table, McCain and his veto pen at the ready. But then again, it still IS off the table 2 years later so how does it matter. Health Care wouldn't have happened. That's a big one. Other than that, though I think such conjecture deserves its' own thread, I'd say pretty much things wouldn't have been all that different if we'd had McCain as President rather than President Obama. And I think the Republicans would've swept into office just as easily, as the sentiment has ALWAYS been more anti-Congress than anti-White House of late (McCain could've spent a LOT of time bitching about how Congress was getting nothing done, offering up extremist proposals, etc...and he'd have actually BEEN a leader of the teabaggers which would've made them even stronger if he played his cards right).
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka Did you hear that Kathy Griffin called her a white Precious? LOL I was just thinking last night how unhappy I am with Obama but I definitely believe he is still massively better than what the alternative was. I still find the thought of a McCain/Palin Presidency quite terrifying.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka Did you hear that Kathy Griffin called her a white Precious? LOL I was just thinking last night how unhappy I am with Obama but I definitely believe he is still massively better than what the alternative was. I still find the thought of a McCain/Palin Presidency quite terrifying.
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Originally Posted By Mr X Sorry LABUDA (my bad...and apologizes...but still you might consider dropping the FAMILY name before bitching out people who use your FIRST name). Dave
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I don't understand the hatred for Bristol Palin. Other than being the daughter of a devisive person I just can't fathom while so much venom is passed her way. She is young adult thrust in the spotlight. By and large I think she is handling herself well. I'm not sure how I would have reacted at her age. And, as for Kathy Griffin calling her fat, I'm not sure someone who has been under the knife as often as Griffin has should have any right to comment on someone else's look. If Palin and Griffin are standing naked in my bedroom then Griffin is the one who will be shown the door.
Originally Posted By LPFan22 Ann, grow up and realize that people make mistakes. You could have been less hostile. Rude much?
Originally Posted By LPFan22 Just makes me angry sometimes. No one is better than anyone else. No matter how proud they are of their name.
Originally Posted By Mr X No worries dude. Ann and I are good friends (I really don't know why her comment was erased. I guess they didn't realize the kidding nature of it).
Originally Posted By DAR Because the hearing the name Palin causes certain people foam at the mouth, yell loud obscenties and curse the very existence. See also Obama.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 it is really is shocking how much hate there is in this world news area. It makes a ittle sad to think people are this unhappy in thier lives. Any harsh remarks directed towards me are welcome. God bless and have a wonderful Christmas/holiday season. I'm off to WDW in a few days.
Originally Posted By gadzuux It cuts both ways - the people that love Bristol are for the most part also supporters of Mom Sarah. And they've got nothing but vitriol for Levi Johnston - another "young adult thrust into the spotlight". So as much as you'd like to portray this as the "angry left" filled with hate, it's just two sides of the same polarized coin.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 I didn't say anything about a side. I just think that folks are really acting hateful in general. See above
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Maybe I've missed it but I don't think I've seen any negative words about Levi toward the Palin family. But, I've sure seen it from him aimed at the Palin family. I don't have anger or hatred for any of them. I can't get angry at people I don't know anymore than I can get angry at anyone in LP for saying stupid things about me. I just don't get that riled up. I suppose it is the "in" thing to be angry, loud, boisterous, etc. But, I've never really been "in".
