Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Ever wonder what kind of security ground crews at airports go through? A Sacramento pilot has angered the TSA by posting a major security hole at SFO (San Francisco International Airport). What's bothersome to me, but hardly surprising, is the hot water this person is in with the Feds due to making this information public. <a href="http://news.travel.aol.com/2010/12/23/pilot-in-hot-water-for-exposing-security-flaws/" target="_blank">http://news.travel.aol.com/201...y-flaws/</a>
Originally Posted By Mr X I always thought that was an open secret anyway. The reaction IS telling isn't it though Hans? What they DON'T want the public to know is just how much the harassment and crap we go through is nothing more than security theater...it's not as though the lines we go through are the only ways to get access to those planes (or assist others for that matter).
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Did you guys hear about the guy who accidentally took his loaded hand gun on a plane? Security didn't catch it, and he realized it at some point during the flight when he opened his briefcase. He advised someone when he got off of the plane what happened. I bet he was scared.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "The reaction IS telling isn't it though Hans?" Yes it is. Kudos to the pilot for making the information public. "Did you guys hear about the guy who accidentally took his loaded hand gun on a plane? Security didn't catch it, and he realized it at some point during the flight when he opened his briefcase." Amazing. How about the kid who stowed away inside an aircraft wheel well: <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-12-23-stowaway23_ST_N.htm" target="_blank">http://www.usatoday.com/news/n...ST_N.htm</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt The pilot, who is under investigation, has revealed his identity and is defending his Youtube postings: <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/12/28/national/a062446S40.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea" target="_blank">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/....bayarea</a> ""If you're suggesting that it's a secret, I would suggest that it's in plain view for everybody to see," Werno [the pilot's attorney] told Good Morning America. "Really, the issue is why aren't (TSA officials) securing our airports, and why aren't they doing a better job of screening the ground crews?" Good question.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub What about the No congregating at the front of the plane rule...last flight I was on all the flight crew were at the back of the plane reading relaxing(dimmed lighting at nightime) while a strange guy was "congregating" by the emergency exit door in front of the plane for a LONG time. I could not take my eyes off him as if I was frozen and expecting something serious to happen. I was strangely calm thinking at least it happened on my way home from WDW. My family will assume I was happy...surely!
Originally Posted By Mr X ***What about the No congregating at the front of the plane rule*** Wha? Never heard of that before!
Originally Posted By barboy2 OK, this is getting silly fast. A)1 person does not make a congregation. B) if that passenger was such a danger to the safety of the plane for being 'strange' why didn't you do something besides sit there. You expect something serious to go down but yet you did nothing. If I thought my life was in danger I SURE AS HECK would get out of my seat and tell the gent to move away from the emerg. exit or make him move away or at the very least inform a crew member.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub sorry Southwest has one restroom in the front right by the cockpit door which also remains locked since 9-11 and nobody is allowed to wait in a line for the restroom to be available(security issue). I guess a congregation would overpower the flight attendants so no more congregating.But everybody can conga at the back of the plane.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I felt as if my brain was working in slow motion and real time was out of context. It was just weird. I also was seated in the middle and by the time I started to unbuckle my seatbelt to try to get the flight attendants attention that person went back to his seat. ANd apparently one person is a congregation because you are not allowed to wait in the aisle at the front of the plane. Do you fly often because that is hardly being silly? I guess SW is the only airlines with that rule.?.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Did it ever occur to you that the passenger was airline personnel (pilot or FA) who knew someone in the crew and was chatting with them? I see this all the time whenever I fly. I almost always share my row with deadheading airline personnel. Even if you could not directly see the FA, there was someone in the forward galley at the time, per FAA regulations. At least one member of the flight crew has to stay in the forward part of the cabin to attend to the pilot's needs, especially if they need to use the lavatory and unlock the cockpit door to get to it. You claimed that all FAs were in the back of the plane at the time, but that would never happen. At least one crew member had to stay upfront near the pilots for security reasons.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Never heard of that before!" Really? They make that announcement before every flight.
