Originally Posted By WorldDisney I'm sorry, I can't take it anymore!! This latest news with Bush authorizing the classified leak is the FINAL straw for me!!! I'm sick of it and I'm sick of him. I haven't created a thread here for nearly 2 years now and haven't made a post in this area in over a year, but I CAN'T TAKE IT!!!! Bush has screwed up SO MUCH, I don't how anyone can defend this man anymore??? Iraq is a mess and can't even get their government straight and may even hit a civil war. Bush has basically said the army isn't leaving for a long time to come now and that Iraq will be something that will take several Presidents now to get right. Pass all your crap on the next guy, nice. Katrina was just another line of disasters for this administration. NO, I don't blame it completely on him, I'm not nieve, it was a mult party disaster from the Mayor on up, but when you say the director of FEMA is doing a heck of a job when he really ISN'T, what does that say???? Then, he claims he didn't know anything about the on coming devastation that it turned out to be only to see him on video just several months later being told the levey could break afterall and that they would be prepared for it. Huh? That's being prepared?? Then the 'unauthorized' wire tapping that is still in legal turmoil and something that was hidden from the American public. If there not an issue, why keep it a secret to begin with?? Why not just say this will be the new policey and let it be known? You have no problems telling people how the Patriot Act can curtail your rights, why does this has to be in secret?? And now, it looks like the man has been searching for himself the last two years as John Kerry puts it to find out who leaked the CIA name. AGAIN, it's common sense, if you know YOU had something to do with that leak, even if indirectly, why all the secrecy and word games??? They KNEW from day 1 Libby only mentioned it because they authorized him to, but yet they were playing games like they didn't know who could have possibly did something like that. Then, when Libby is the one who is discovered as providing the leak, they are shocked, SHOCKED he could've had anything to do with it? How? Hell, if you are the one to say he can authorize classified leaks under you, why was it so shocking all those months later when they found out it was him?? I'm just waiting for all the semantics and spin that will come out of this administration on this one. Even the biggest talker can get tongued tied trying to keep it all balanced and look like it was on the up and up when the reality is they knew Libby was already leaking classified documents and should've said something THEN instead of this man getting the 5th degree ALONE. I'm sorry, Bush has got to GO!!!! The man has one of the lowest approval ratings ever for a second term President and its just one scandal after another. He's starting to make Clinton look like Jesus. It's insulting what this President has done to America and more importantly, the image of America in just 5 years time. I'm in Vietnam now and eat at a restaurant in Ho Chi Min city where Clinton visited and there are pictues of him in everywhere in that restaurant. They were PROUD to have him visit their restaurant. I think how many people would put up pictures of Bush as well and we know not many. Even if THEY liked Bush, they know it would be 'controversial' to do it. Leader of the free world in the most powerful and richest country and people think the man is either really stupid or really evil and its sad. This shouldn't be the kind of leadership we want. I know I'm going to get a lot of posts defending him and that's your right, but this man has divided the country and the world like never before while continue to be involved with one scandal after another and I wonder how ANYONE could defend him to their last breath anymore? I saw that man that scolded him on CNN and it was SOOO good to see. Not to see the President basically being called evil and 'shameful', but that he needed to hear from an average person what so many of the world truly thinks of him and do it in the open. All I can say at this moment is I envied that man and wish it was ME who could've been telling him off. He's squandered so much: Our goodwill, our economy and our name. I still can't believe we got 3 more years of this man to go. 2009 can't come soon enough.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney LOL, yeah, I'm calmer now . I just happening to be watching CNN while online and was SHOCKED to hear this latest issue from him like 30 minutes ago and felt the need to come to WE and type. But, I ask this, why are people so blind to this administration? I'm NOT saying the man is evil or anything, but its clear to me they have no problem hiding things from the public, giving out misleading information to suit their cause and manipulating the law to do what they want and some people act like all of this is okay?? I want to make this clear, I don't HATE Bush, never did. This is the way I see it: I don't think he's a bad man, just a bad President and his policies, back ended secrets and failures are catching up to him in a big way and I WISH people saw more of what was yet to come when they voted him in for another 4 years.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder I've said it before, and the usual suspects defend him. I don't think he's evil either, but frankly, the guy's just not that smart. He's got to be one of the least intelligent presidents we've had in at least the last 100 years. I just don't think he has the intellectual capacity for the job, and the results of his decisions bear that out.
Originally Posted By pecos bill I dont know how he can sleep at night, considering the death and misery that he is directly responsible for. This administration is insanity on an epic scale. Never in my life have I been so thoroughly disgusted with a president and his administration.
Originally Posted By ecdc Amen to post 4. I get caught up in the "Bush is horrible" mantra myself sometimes. I genuinely think he's a good person who wants what is best for America. But I think he's incompetent and the worldview of him and those around him make it impossible for them to govern well. His Christian conservative approach has him involved in things that government has no business in, like Terri Schiavo, while his privileged upbringing renders him ignorant to how many, many people live in poverty or near-poverty in this country everyday, as well demonstrated by the failures of Hurrican Katrina. His well-meaning attitude towards Iraq has cost the country dearly in lives of soldiers and political capital around the world. The other news today is that he blatantly misrepresented Saddam's purchase of tubing, which Bush said was for nuclear weapons, after he was briefed that they were for conventional weapons.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Bush may well give us something for which I would be eternally grateful; the death of neo-conservatism in the United States. A very interesting opinion piece from Newsweek: <<April 5, 2006 - There are presently two sectarian wars under way that will decide America's future: one in Iraq, and one inside the Republican Party. The issues are intimately related. If Iraq erupts into full-blown civil war or breaks up, the war within the GOP will be effectively settled. The last ounce of credibility will be drained from George W. Bush's great revolution over the use of American power. The neoconservative program that Bush adopted will instantly become an odd historical footnote, going the way of the Know-Nothings and the Mugwumps. Bush will find himself lumped in the rankings with Warren Harding, or worse.>> Source: <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12172528/site/newsweek/" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12 172528/site/newsweek/</a>
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> ... or worse. << Like for instance being exposed as a criminal and a liar? And not even a good one at that? History will not be kind to george w. bush.
Originally Posted By oc_dean W.D. my buddy ... in the words of the previous president - I feel your pain. For me .. it didn't take the misguidedness of Iraq ... not the 2000 election mess .. or anything else inbetween. All it took for me was seeing in him in speeches during the 2000 race .. how he struggles to put a sentence together .. and how so many sentences start with an, "uhhhh" .. and a long break before he can utter at least 2 words. Not very bright. It was right there I thought - Oh it's not possible this guy could possibly win. No chance. America has more common sense.
Originally Posted By idleHands This was the faux pas that did it for me: "We've got an issue in America. Too many good docs are getting out of business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." What. A. Dork.
Originally Posted By ecdc I witnessed first-hand the speech where he said "misunderestimated" like four times. I just turned it on MSNBC and he was speaking, and there it was. He stumbled over it the first time, like he was feeling out how it really should be said, then he settled on "misunderestimated." After he was comfortable with it, he said it like three or four more times. "They misunderestimated, our resolve, they misunderestimated, our conviction..." It was one of those moments where I was so embarrased for someone I reached for the remote and changed the channel immediately.
Originally Posted By teddibubbles He has allways came across to us. as a very bad Used car sells man! or the carny pitch man! like ya right!
Originally Posted By cape cod joe It just goes to show you how incredibly bad the other candidates were. Al Gore, in 2000, made me more upset than George does now, for myriad reasons, but I must say NOW it looks like Pass' pithy post 4 is ALL that needs to be said to frame the pathetic situation we're finding ourselves in.
Originally Posted By mrichmondj As much as I agree with the original poster, I would just as soon wait out the rest of the term on GWB. This administration has things so screwed up right now, that whoever replaces them really is in a no win situation in trying to set everything right again. While it is not a very positive thing to think in the short term, I would just as soon have GWB and his cronies continue to screw things up to a point that there is no question on who is to blame when our foreign policy continues to falter, the economy starts to fall apart, and the federal budget enters a crisis. The worst thing that could happen is that the next administration takes control before these things really get ugly -- then they'll shoulder all the blame just by virtue of being in the position of authority, no matter who is responsible. I am surprised there are any volunteers to run for president after the past 6 years -- it won't be a fun or rewarding job for anyone having to clean up this mess.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad Okay so let's let Bush go right now. Would you really rather see Cheney as President? I think we had better ride the rest of this term out and see what happens in the next election.
Originally Posted By friendofdd >>>I am surprised there are any volunteers to run for president<<< That is a serious problem. When you think of those who have run in recent years and those whose names are now being mentioned, you have to wonder if there are any bright, statesmenlike leaders available in our country. When I look at the republicans and democrats it makes me proud to be an independent. Sadly, we independents can't get together enough to develope good leaders eitherl
Originally Posted By cape cod joe DVC--I personally like George as people know reading my posts, but Cheney!!? I really despise that man all the way to his fiddling with glasses gesticulation. Sometimes people just rub you the wrong way (as I do with lots of people here probably) but I would NOT want to play golf with Cheney> my litmus test--let alone have the man run our country so LET George finish the term and see what happens?
Originally Posted By cape cod joe EC--And don't misunderestimate that he could bail out the elephants before Nov
