Originally Posted By WritingDork hm... Since there has been discussion on the major party candidates I thought, "why not bring up Nader?"... so I am... Just wondering... What do you guys think of Nader... a spoiler or not? Should he just give up? Do you agree with Nader? Personally I think Nader is getting my vote. I do not believe Nader is a spoiler just a scapegoat. The Democratic party is putting out bad candidates and Republicans are disenfranchising voters to their profit. In the movie on him "an unreasonable man" one person I think makes a very valid point on Nader saying that if everything he has done had his name on it he would probably be president in a heartbeat... which I agree... Just interested in all of your opinions...
Originally Posted By alexbook I agree with him on a most questions of substance, and I voted for him the first two times he ran for President (1996 and 2000), but I didn't vote for him in 2004 and I won't vote for him this year. The problem is that (a) he's a terrible campaigner, and (b) he seems to have decided that he's more important than the causes he espouses. He needs to back off and let someone else be the candidate of the Left, preferably somebody who can actually deliver a decent speech. He also needs to focus on electing liberal (Green or independent) candidates to local and state offices.
Originally Posted By ecdc I've always had a hard time with the "I'm going to prove a point" candidates. If you know you can't win, why run? There's far better things Nader could be doing. At this point, he strikes me as an egomaniac.
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster Nader would do the world a favor if he'd just disappear. He's done enough damage already.
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf Amen brother! He's a major reason we're in the energy bind we're in right now. He essentially killed the nuclear energy program in the U.S. in the 70's and we're paying the consequences now.
Originally Posted By WritingDork We're in an energy bind?... I mean besides the fake ones where energy companies ration energy to make money... like in California. Maybe I'll go have some water from the tap... thats safe to drink... thanks Nader ^_^... >>At this point, he strikes me as an egomaniac.<< Being labeled as a spoiler and told that he shouldn't run for president, a constitutional right, are real ego boosters.. >>He needs to back off and let someone else be the candidate of the Left, preferably somebody who can actually deliver a decent speech. He also needs to focus on electing liberal (Green or independent) candidates to local and state offices.<< Agreed for the most part.. the whole speech thing... look who have for a president... Nader at least can make an intelligible statement. He is also not being paid by lobbyists so that probably makes things a bit more difficult for campaigning. However, I do agree that focus needs to put on local offices much more.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I admire Nadar for a lot of things, but these increasingly quixotic presidential runs are actually diminishing his stature, and that's unfortunate.
