The Golden Compass, what's all the fuss about.

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    Originally Posted By DAR

    I've tried reading the book at least three times, never got into the story. The movie looks very average at best. An item of power everyone wants, Lord of the Rings. Talking animals and parallel worlds, Narnia. Epic battles of good and evil, just about every fantasy/sci fi story you can think of. So why is this in World Events, apparently God and the church are the villians in the book. And many Christians are upset about this. I have to simply ask why. I believe in God and view as just a story being told, nothing more nothing less. Is this evangelicals getting their panties in a bunch or are their claims valid?
     
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    Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains

    My son 16 read the book and can't wait for the movie - He said in the book there is stuff about God - but he read some of the press on the movie - he's in a movie production class and this has been a topic since the Catholic Church said it's peace on it - and in the movie they altered the story enough to please the masses -
    Unfortunately bad or good this movie will be a huge hit probably because of the Churches stance on it - Can we all say the DiVinci Code, a so so movie made huge because of all the contraversy!!
     
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    Originally Posted By fkurucz

    <<He said in the book there is stuff about God>>

    My understanding is that in the books the being known as "God" to the Abrahamic faiths is actually an evil being.

    That is what the fuss is about.

    Newline sanitized the story somewhat (enought to irritate fans of the books).

    I find it interesting that the movie premieres during Advent. Needless to say, I won't be going to see it.
     
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    Originally Posted By fkurucz

    <<Talking animals and parallel worlds, Narnia.>>

    This book series is known in some circles as the "Anti-Narnia".
     
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    Originally Posted By DVC_dad

    Because very subtle, and in a seemingly logical, well intentioned, noble way, the kids kill God at the end. I have a problem taking my children to see that.

    We aren't that conservative either. We love Harry Potter, LOTR, heck we love Sponge Bob. I'll have to see this one first.

    All that being said, Nicole Kidnan IS my favorite actress, ever since seeing Practical Magic some years ago.

    *shrug*

    We'll see.
     
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    Originally Posted By sherrytodd

    Well, Daniel Craig is in it so I'll be having to see it. *sigh*
     
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    Originally Posted By DAR

    <<Because very subtle, and in a seemingly logical, well intentioned, noble way, the kids kill God at the end. >>

    Well I can see how people might get upset about that. Personally it doesn't bother me because it's a work of fiction. I've always maintained that the people who make a big stink of these things that seemingly mock their faith might not be as strong in that faith.
     
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    Originally Posted By DAR

    And if the evangelicals really want to get angry just wait until Hollywood gets ahold of the Preacher comic series that'll cause a combustion.
     
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    Originally Posted By WorldDisney

    Wasn't Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig's last collaboration the truly epic 'Invasion'???

    **PASS**
     
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    Originally Posted By WorldDisney

    Wasn't Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig's last collaboration the truly epic 'Invasion'???

    **PASS**
     
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    Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF

    >>And if the evangelicals really want to get angry just wait until Hollywood gets ahold of the Preacher comic series that'll cause a combustion.<<

    They already have. It's been in development for an HBO series for a while now.
     
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    Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF

    What bothers me is no different than anything else that has bothered me in similar past situations: People are taking the "So-and-so said so" way out rather than judging the work on its own merits.

    Oh, well. The controversy almost guarantees a terrific box office for this movie. I wasn't terribly familiar with the book series, but since this ticks off the religious right, that just about guarantees I'll go see it.
     
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    Originally Posted By DVC_dad

    <<<I've always maintained that the people who make a big stink of these things that seemingly mock their faith might not be as strong in that faith.>>>


    Hummm never thought of it this way.


    I'll have to disagree. I don't mind the movie being made at all. I am glad there is another film starring Nicole Kidman. I have a new respect for Daniel Craig. I though he sucked eggs in the Tomb Raider movies, but he really really REALLY came into his own in the Bond film. So I'll like seeing him too. I have NOTHING against the movie being made.

    However, That doesn't mean that I should take my CHILDREN to see it. I have no problem with the Exorcist being made, but should my kids see it at age 4?

    I get your point DAR and I agree with you. But I ain't taking the little ones until I see it first. And really, it isn't so much about my "Faith" as it is about my childrens' perception of things and their ease of being influenced in a way I don't like.

    But I get the point you are making and agree with it.
     
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    Originally Posted By DVC_dad

    <<<I'll have to disagree.>>>

    and

    <<<I get the point you are making and agree with it>>>




    Okay what I mean is...


    I disagree that your example pertains to me, DAR. My motivations are different. But I agree that people who go nuts over Hollywood films, need to slow down and realize that it's not the end of the world. It's entertainment, not reality.
     
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    Originally Posted By wonderingalice

    I'm surprised no one mentioned it here yet...

    The problem that people have with the film and the series of books is that the author is a very vocal atheist who admits he's purposely attempting to disrupt others' faith in God.

    <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp" target="_blank">http://www.snopes.com/politics
    /religion/compass.asp</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF

    And wasn't Lewis trying to foster a Christian viewpoint with the Narnia books?
     
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    Originally Posted By DAR

    <<However, That doesn't mean that I should take my CHILDREN to see it. I have no problem with the Exorcist being made, but should my kids see it at age 4?>>

    I don't think anyone should see the Exorcist, most overated film ever.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    Protests about the content of movies almost always have the opposite of the intended effect. After outcries over movies such as "Basic Instinct", "Last Temptation of Christ", "DaVinci Code" and so forth, one would think protestors would have learned that the surest way to give free publicity and boost box office revenue to the target of your outrage is to announce a boycott.

    In fact, it's such a reliable way to drum up business, it wouldn't be surprising to learn at some point that studios themselves launch such a protest. There's something about people drawing a hard line in the sand and announcing no decent person should cross it that makes people want to do just that, when otherwise the film would likely escapes their notice entirely.
     
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    Originally Posted By DAR

    <<And wasn't Lewis trying to foster a Christian viewpoint with the Narnia books?>>

    I actually didn't really notice it until I reread the Lion Witch and Wardrobe. But I still took away the story as nothing more than a good adventure story.

    Plus I read that Lewis himself at one point was an atheist for quite some time.

    <<In fact, it's such a reliable way to drum up business, it wouldn't be surprising to learn at some point that studios themselves launch such a protest>>

    I remember a few years ago Kevin Smith was telling a story about people were going to be protesting Dogma at a theatre near his home in New Jersey. So he called up his producer they made some signs and since nobody there knew who he was and both were protesting their own film.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    LOL!
     

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