Originally Posted By friendofdd Wednesday, November 07, 2007 Weather Channel Founder: Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’ Intro by Joe D’Aleo, Icecap, CCM I was privileged to work with John Coleman, the founder of The Weather Channel in the year before it became a reality and then for the first of the 6 years I was fortunate to be the Director of Meteorology. No one worked harder than John to make The Weather Channel a reality and to make sure the staffing, the information and technology was the very best possible at that time. John currently works with KUSI in San Diego. He posts regularly. I am very pleased to present his latest insightful post. By John Coleman It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create an allusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the “research†to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus. Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild “scientific†scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmentally conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minute documentary segment. I do not oppose environmentalism. I do not oppose the political positions of either party. However, Global Warming, i.e. Climate Change, is not about environmentalism or politics. It is not a religion. It is not something you “believe in.†It is science; the science of meteorology. This is my field of life-long expertise. And I am telling you Global Warming is a non-event, a manufactured crisis and a total scam. I say this knowing you probably won’t believe a me, a mere TV weatherman, challenging a Nobel Prize, Academy Award and Emmy Award winning former Vice President of United States. So be it. I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. I am incensed by the incredible media glamour, the politically correct silliness and rude dismissal of counter arguments by the high priest of Global Warming. In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious. As the temperature rises, polar ice cap melting, coastal flooding and super storm pattern all fail to occur as predicted everyone will come to realize we have been duped. The sky is not falling. And, natural cycles and drifts in climate are as much if not more responsible for any climate changes underway. I strongly believe that the next twenty years are equally as likely to see a cooling trend as they are to see a warming trend. Posted on 11/07 at 10:56 AM <a href="http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/comments_about_global_warming/" target="_blank">http://icecap.us/index.php/go/ joes-blog/comments_about_global_warming/</a>
Originally Posted By jonvn Every scientific agency on the planet thinks it's real. This guy who works at a TV station does not. OK, I think that is an even comparison.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >> I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. << Interesting. I wonder what papers those are? He doesn't say. I wonder which scientists he's talked to? He doesn't say. The problem with his article is that he is making a very emotional argument saying this is a matter of science. All he's saying is "trust me. I know I'm right." And then says it's not about faith. Right.
Originally Posted By friendofdd I'm with you, Jonvn. And the next few years will show him to be a fraud. Probably just seeking publicity.
Originally Posted By jonvn I don't think we actually have to wait any more years. We're already starting to see effects. I just happen to trust the NSF over this guy. Call me crazy.
Originally Posted By peeaanuut we have already done the damage. its irreversable. We can help try to stop it, but that would be like putting a can of peas in front of a mac truck to stop it. Were pretty much screwed. Well at least our kids are.
Originally Posted By jonvn well, i hope not. The thing is we have actually really stopped the problem with the ozone layer hole, it looks like. It will take another few decades to repair, but the damage has stopped happening. This is going to take a lot more effort and it's going to take a lot longer. And it is not going to get better while we pretend there is a "debate" when there is none. This stuff needs to be taken care of now. It is just going to be harder on our children and their children in the meantime. When temps hit 130 in the valley every day in the summer, maybe then someone will think to do something, or we'll just start dying out. People don't like Al Gore (hate him, don't know why) but what he has to say is basically correct. The sooner we work to fix this, the sooner it will be fixed, if it can be fixed.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad Does anyone here other than me not care about global warming? Why? Because I am yet to hear that there is ANYTHING I personally can do about it.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 < manipulated long term scientific data to create an allusion of rapid global warming.> One would think a highly educated man would not substitute "allusion" for "illusion." This kind of raises a red flag for me and makes me wonder if Coleman really said this, or if this is like those emails you get saying "Listen to what Robin Williams said!" or "Listen to what George Carlin said!" that then quote things they, well, never said. Perhaps he really did; but if so, 2oony got it right: "All he's saying is "trust me. I know I'm right." And then says it's not about faith. Right."
Originally Posted By jonvn Don't you have children? And yes, there are things you can personally do, at the very least lobby your reps about it.
Originally Posted By peeaanuut do you really think the govt puts the best needs of the people first? You must be dreaming. Lobbying does nothing unless you have money. If you have money you can get something done in govt. Our entire govt is run on bribes and dirty money. Same as lawyers and judges and most cops.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad True. I can do that. I guess I could at least, no at the VERY least read up on the subject so that I could make an informed decision, and after that lobby, and use less gasoline. No sarcasm, I'm completely serious.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip This global warming thing obviously hasn't come to Minnesota. Chalk me up in the unconvinced category. DULUTH TOP 5 WARMEST WINTERS AVG TEMP YEAR 1ST 28.0 1877-1878 2ND 22.3 1997-1998 3RD 22.1 1881-1882 4TH 21.7 1930-1931 5TH 20.5 2001-2002 DULUTH TOP 5 WARMEST JANUARY'S. AVG TEMP YEAR 1ST 21.9 1944 2ND 21.0 1880 3RD 20.5 1891 4TH 20.4 1878 5TH 19.8 1931 INTERNATIONAL FALLS TOP 5 WARMEST WINTERS AVG TEMP YEAR 1ST 19.8 1997-1998 2ND 17.0 1920-1921 3RD 16.8 1986-1987 4TH 16.4 2001-2002 5TH 14.7 1982-1983 INTERNATIONAL FALLS TOP 5 WARMEST JANUARY'S AVG TEMP YEAR 1ST 17.5 1944 2ND 14.6 1919 3RD 14.2 1921 4TH 13.4 1990 5TH 13.2 1942 Source: <a href="http://climate.umn.edu/doc/journal/warm_winter0506.htm" target="_blank">http://climate.umn.edu/doc/jou rnal/warm_winter0506.htm</a>
Originally Posted By jonvn "I could at least, no at the VERY least read up on the subject so that I could make an informed decision, and after that lobby, and use less gasoline. " Watch the Al Gore movie. Whatever you think of him, he does present the facts, at least as best we knew them when the film was made.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Localized stats mean nothing. What matters is long-term and planet-wide.>> And we don't have a good measure of that. The vast majority of weather stations are in urban centers. Due to the 'heat island' effect around large cities, urban temperatures have undoubtedly risen over the past 100 years. But do we have an accurate measure of earth's temperature that is not disproportionately influenced by the urban heat island effect? I don't think so.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I first became aware of John Coleman back in the 60's, when he was the wacky weather guy for WLS-TV Eyewitness News in Chicago. He even came to our elementary school to give a talk about the weather. Nice enough guy. I was surprised to learn a few years ago he was still around at KUSI in San Diego. While he is indeed a meteorologist and founded the Weather Channel, reasonable minds can differ with him on this issue. Quite easily, as a matter of fact.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I consider myself to have an open mind on the issue. I'm not convinced one way or the other at this point.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Ok I'll watch it with an open mind. " One thing I know has changed since that film was made was Kilamanjaro. It's since been figured out that the snow melting there is not caused by global warming, but by yearly temperature fluctuations. SO when you hear him talk about that, at the time the film was made, that was our best knowledge, but it has since been shown to be incorrect.
