Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder <a href="http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/cleveland_metro/Cleveland-police-dispatch-Missing-teens-Amanda-Berry-and-Gina-DeJesus-found-alive?hpt=hp_t2" target="_blank">http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/ne...pt=hp_t2</a> Amazing story. Be sure to click on the reporter's interview with the man that freed them. It's as honest and raw as can be.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>It's as honest and raw as can be.<< "When a pretty young little white girl runs into a black man's arms, boy, you know somethin' is wrong." Wow. Incredible. Those poor girls. How they get back to some sense of normalcy is beyond me.
Originally Posted By barboy If I were in town I'd like to drink a San Miguel Red Horse or two with Charles and catch an Indians game......
Originally Posted By ecdc If you haven't heard the 911 tape of his call, do yourself a favor and listen in. There is language, but it is bleeped. It is also awesome. <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/07/us/ohio-cleveland-ramsey/index.html?hpt=hp_t1" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/07/...pt=hp_t1</a>
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/08/us/ohio-missing-women-found/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/08/...dex.html</a> This story just gets more worse, weirder and sad. That the girls are still alive and apparently are in decent shape is beyond belief. The death penalty, if it were available, would be too quick and easy. It's hard to conjure up a fitting punishment for the people that did this.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance And I can't even imagine having a child by your captor. Mind boggling.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<It's hard to conjure up a fitting punishment for the people that did this.>> Maybe when they die, look at their brains and see what would posesses them to do this.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "McGrath said that the house, a shabby, two-story dwelling on Cleveland’s West Side, had come to the attention of police only twice — in 2000, when Ariel Castro called about a fight on the street, and in 2004, when Castro, a school bus driver, had left behind one of his passengers." Ahhhh, he was a school bus driver!!!
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I lifted this from the comments section following one of the CNN articles about these girls. It helps put it into perspective: "Mike Jones • 5 hours ago − I think about all the times over the last 10 years I had "bad days". You know the kind of days where you're cut off in traffic, you get in an argument with your significant other, your coworker disrespects you, the waiter is rude to you.....etc. while I was letting little things upset me these women were going through hell. They are so strong. Remember how blessed you are everyday and try not to let things get to you. We all have had it good compared to these brave women. I pray they find peace and happiness."
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I was a little surprised the brothers weren't charged with anything. 10 years the women were in that house, the brothers are there all the time, and they never knew?? That may be the case. Have the police done full interviews with the victims? If they say they never saw the brothers (and thus the brothers never saw them), I guess okay. But if the brothers were aware of their presence, they have to be charged with something, no?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I heard a clip from somewhere with a Cleveland law enforcement person saying interviews with the victims didn't incriminate the brothers. Very strange, although in a weird way, good. I just don't know how they didn't know. The again, I know every inch of two of my brothers' homes and have never been to another's.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 Well, the son also said he had been in the house and not seen anything. He mentioned locked doors and places he couldn't go, but I guess the girls must have been threatened to be quiet or something, because nobody heard a peep.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance My new favorite song. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZcRU0Op5P4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...RU0Op5P4</a> God, I love Charles Ramsey.
Originally Posted By barboy ///The death penalty, if it were available,/// I'm afraid it actually IS available------looks like the DA has that option here based on criminal termination of pregancies.......I really hope the DA will not seek death in this case and that Ohio will ultimately abolish the practice of state killings.
Originally Posted By barboy ///And I can't even imagine having a child by your captor./// me too, so does that mean that Castro's 'abortion' practices on these girls were the lesser of 2 evils......meaning it would have been even worse if he refrained from beating them to the point of fetal miscarriage? Both scenarios are horrific but which is worse: Having an unwanted child from a vile rapist or suffering unspeakable abuse to abort?
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Actually, if they put him in the general population, it's the same thing as the death penalty...
Originally Posted By barboy I'm not so sure that Ohio would place him like that.........I would guess that an evaluation takes place prior to the convict 'matriculating' into the institution and upon that evaluation staff strategically positions inmates to reduce the chances of fights/violence.......I would guess that prison staff likes to see peace and uneventful days. I would bet that gender, ethnicity, gang affiliation(if any), type of crime committed, mental state factor in as to where and how one is positioned in prison.......just a guess. (((((Had one(and only one) long date with a staff member for San Quentin prison whereby I was only interested in what she has been doing the last 10+ years...... worked for the California Dept. of Correctins ...... very interestig stories she had for me))))
