Originally Posted By Darkbeer <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6092658/Cruel-and-neglectful-care-of-one-million-NHS-patients-exposed.html" target="_blank">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/hea...sed.html</a> >>In the last six years, the Patients Association claims hundreds of thousands have suffered from poor standards of nursing, often with 'neglectful, demeaning, painful and sometimes downright cruel' treatment. The charity has disclosed a horrifying catalogue of elderly people left in pain, in soiled bed clothes, denied adequate food and drink, and suffering from repeatedly cancelled operations, missed diagnoses and dismissive staff. The Patients Association said the dossier proves that while the scale of the scandal at Mid-Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust - where up to 1,200 people died through failings in urgent care - was a one off, there are repeated examples they have uncovered of the same appalling standards throughout the NHS. While the criticisms cover all aspects of hospital care, the treatment and attitude of nurses stands out as a repeated theme across almost all of the cases. They have called on Government and the Care Quality Commission to conduct an urgent review of standards of basic hospital care and to enforce stricter supervision and regulation. Claire Rayner, President of the Patients Association and a former nurse, said:“For far too long now, the Patients Association has been receiving calls on our helpline from people wanting to talk about the dreadful, neglectful, demeaning, painful and sometimes downright cruel treatment their elderly relatives had experienced at the hands of NHS nurses. << MUCH more at the link.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Lol - I wondered about trying to beat you to this one. What you have left out is some other key info as well: >>>Government chief nursing officer Chris Beasley said: "All patients deserve the highest quality of care from the NHS and the poor care received in these cases is simply unacceptable." But she said this was not representative of the picture across the NHS. "The NHS treats millions of people every day and the vast majority of patients experience good quality, safe and effective care." Dr Peter Carter, chief executive of the Royal College of Nursing, said it would not condone nurses who behave in ways "that are contrary to the principles and ethics of the profession". But he added he was concerned that highlighting a small number of cases "might undermine the public's confidence in the world-class care they can expect to receive from the NHS". And he added: "Furthermore it could also dampen the morale of the millions of staff who work tirelessly to help their patients." <<< The big difference here is because it is government run, there will be a big enquiry and the issues will be sorted out over time. In the private medical industry it is easier to brush these sorts of things under the carpet and buy your way out. Like I say, the NHS is not perfect, but I encounter similar issues with Kaiser in the Bay Area in the 80's as well. Also sadly these relate to nursing homes too. Regarding the US: >>>Nursing Home Facts ■Today, about 1.5 million Americans live in our nation's 17,000 nursing homes. ■More than 90 percent of America's nursing home residents are over 65. ■88 percent of America's nursing home residents are white. ■Three out of four nursing home residents are women. ■The typical nursing home resident is a woman in her 80's, who shows mild forms of memory loss and dementia. Although physically healthy for her age, she needs help with about 4 of 5 activities of daily living (eating, dressing, bathing, transferring, toileting). Over her lifetime, she's saved for retirement, but the average cost of nursing home care is too expensive. She is, therefore, unable to afford the care she needs after six months and will be forced to rely on Medicaid. ■Two out of every three nursing home residents rely on Medicaid. ■Every 8 seconds, an American baby boomer (those born between 1946 and 1964) turns 50. ■By 2030, one in every five Americans will be a senior citizen. ■Americans 85 and older are the faster growing segment of the national population. From 1960-1994, that group increased by more than 274 percent. ■Americans 85 and older are the heaviest users of long-term health care services. ■Longevity is expected to rise for all ages. ■More than 15 percent of Pennsylvania's residents are 65 or older. ■Two out of every five Americans will need long-term care at some point in their lives. ■In 1996, the average cost of a stay in a nursing home was $41,000 per year. ■Only one in four Americans can afford private nursing home care for one year. The average stay in 1995 for a nursing home resident was 2.3 years. ■On average, 8 out of 10 beds in certified nursing homes in America are occupied. ■In Pennsylvania, more than 90 percent of beds in certified nursing homes were occupied by March 2000. ■In 1995, America's nursing homes were 87 percent full. ■Most nursing homes (66 percent) are operated for profit and more than half are operated as part of a chain. This has resulted in fewer, but larger, nursing homes. ■More than half of American nursing homes (54 percent) are below the suggested minimum staffing level for nurse's aides. Nurse's aides are the lowest paid and least trained of all nursing home staff, but they most often feed and bathe patients. ■Nearly one in every four nursing homes (23 percent) are below the suggested minimum staffing level for total licensed staff. ■Nearly one third of nursing homes (31 percent) are below the suggested minimum staffing level for registered nurses. The minimum staffing level for registered nurses is only 12 minutes per day per patient. ■Registered nurses in Medicare/Medicaid-certified nursing homes spend an average of 42 minutes a day with each patient. Licensed practical nurses spend the same amount of time per patient per day. Certified nursing assistants spend an average of 2 hours and 6 minutes per day with each patient. This results in three and a half hours of direct and indirect care from all sources per resident in a 24-hour period. ■Low staffing levels in America's nursing homes contribute to an increase in severe bedsores , malnutrition, and dehydration, which lead to increased hospitalization. <<< The reality is both sets of stats are not comparable. To cut and paste is simply telling only a small part of the story. These are aweful things, and they need to be sorted, and I am sure they will be.
Originally Posted By u k fan I can't take Clare Rayner seriously since they banned her sanitary towel advert!!!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Lol agreed. She is a lovely lady though, I really have enjoyed the chats we have had in the past.
Originally Posted By Mr X Funny that DarkBeer Dave is not focused on attacking the U.K., he must have gotten some talking points from somewhere since it is considered a solid, SOCIALIST program and must be attacked and discredited as much as possible. Nice try, but statistics don't lie and it's AMERICA sending her citizens to an early grave far more often than jolly old England. I am still very much looking forward to the eventual Darkbeer attack on Japan. In fact, I've been doing research for that very purpose, including talking to local doctors (very interesting things they have to say, far different from the talking points I've read so far).
Originally Posted By ecdc I don't know why you all keep responding to his copy-and-paste trollism? At this point, it's clear it's not going to stop. He doesn't respond to your arguments. I doubt if he even reads them. He just posts them and runs away and hides. Just ignore him.
Originally Posted By RockyMtnMinnie <a href="http://news.aol.com/article/connecticut-police-arrest-robbery/635104" target="_blank">http://news.aol.com/article/co...y/635104</a> Connecticut Police Arrest Robbery Suspect Wearing Speedo >>>EAST HARTFORD, Conn. (Aug. 22) - A robbery suspect wearing only a Speedo-style swimsuit was arrested in East Hartford after a police dog tracked him down and bit him on the leg. The Journal Inquirer of Manchester reported that the suspect was being held after his arrest Thursday on $50,000 bail. He was scheduled for arraignment Friday, but the result of that hearing was not immediately available. Police said the suspect tried to steal several vehicles, and also took items from them. They said they spotted the man wearing the bathing suit and holding a tool box that had been burglarized from a truck. Police said the man ran, but officers using a police dog found him hiding behind a car. The 18-year-old suspect allegedly told police he'd been drinking heavily and smoking marijuana.<<<
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