Originally Posted By ecdc We've spent over 700 billion dollars and we are no safer. Thousands of Americans are dead, and anywhere from tens of thousands to several hundred thousand Iraqis are dead, depending on who you ask. I know it's popular to say the surge worked, but when taken in its totality, this was one of our greatest failures as a nation. We never should have gone, and there's no evidence that Iraqis will be better off in the future. On the contrary, hardliner cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's group gained tremendous ground in the last elections.
Originally Posted By KittyPrincess1206 I will personally throw down, if anything happens to my Marine husband during this war...this is just so ridiculous!
Originally Posted By snappyfun >>At least we won. << We won what? Bush was right about the serge and it worked, but what have we won. China and Russia are getting most of the oil contracts after our men and woman died to free those ungrateful rabble. The Islamic world hates the West and no matter how many people we send over there to help them they will always hate us.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 They hate us more after we invaded on a phony pretext, and unleashed a combination war/sectarian violence that left well over 100,000 dead, and 4 million displaced. And when all is said and done, the big winner in this is Iran. Lovely.
Originally Posted By snappyfun >>They hate us more after we invaded on a phony pretext,<< yes and 9-11 was really a Bush plot, right?
Originally Posted By snappyfun I would not have invaded Iraq but that's just me. Bill Clinton said Iraq would use weapons of mass destruction when they got them, and maybe he was right. But I still think it was a waist of American lives.
Originally Posted By DAR In the end it wasn't the right thing to do. But I won't take away, despite some unfortunate incidents like Abu Gharib, the otherwise phenomenal job our soldiers have done.
Originally Posted By Mr X I don't even put the onus of Abu Gharib, Guantanamo, and other places on the backs of U.S. Soldiers either, DAR. They got their orders from the top, and then took the fall. If those in charge were capable of shame, I'd say they should be ashamed, but we all know they couldn't care less.
