Originally Posted By wahooskipper I will admit that I have turned to CNN more often for news than FOX. But, I did like to read the Fox News website because I felt that I would at least get to see both sides of a story and then try to find the truth somewhere between the two. In light of the recent British scandal I've decided I'm done with FOX. Hacking cell phones of journalists and celebrities is pretty pathetic. But, to also have been found to hack into the phone of a young missing person and, quite possibly, victims of 9/11? Well, that is just too much for me. I was appaled listening to more detail emerge this morning and I just cannot be party to it by viewing any of the FOX offerings. Now, I still suggest CNN leans left and is pretty blatantly biased at times but...at least as of now...they haven't resorted to this trash. I am SO glad I decided not to pursue a career in the media. I don't consider it a worthy calling as I once did.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 << I just cannot be party to it by viewing any of the FOX offerings.>> Does that include the regular Fox broadcast channel? FX? Fox Sports? 20th Century?
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Well, unfortunately, I don't think I can avoid it all...which says something about his empire, doesn't it? But, I'm not turning to FOX any longer for any type of news.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 The skipping the news portion of Fox I understand in fact I've pretty much been out of the loop the last few months save the occasional story. But the other Fox entities really have nothing to do with this. Besides the Packers are mostly on Fox, and I ain't giving that up.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Well, that is my problem too. Fox Sports, the FX channel, 20th Century Fox...all entities I have enjoyed.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Wahoo-- I am a moderate who leans towards being a conservative ( especially fiscal issues)- and I haven't watched Fox national news in 5 years-- I watch my Mom watch it and yell at the TV-- enough reason for me. You really want your head to explode-- watch MCNBC and Fox in the same day -- you won't even believe they are covering the same news..complete opposite ends of idiocy it's frightening.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>But the other Fox entities really have nothing to do with this.<< Sorry, that logic doesn't wash. Boycotting just Fox News will have zippo effect. You gotta zap ALL of News Corporation or you're wasting your time. And if you aren't willing to boycott "entities you've enjoyed," then you aren't taking this situation very seriously anyway. A pro football team? Seriously? Just my 2 cents. Sorry, I'm kind of grouchy this morning.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<A pro football team? Seriously?>> One of many teams in all sports that aren't owned by Newscorp.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Boycotting just Fox News will have zippo effect.<< I don't know about that. Glenn Back was shown the door, in part, because advertiser boycotts ate into the profitability of his program. i don't for a minute believe that Fox had any problem with the nonsense he was spewing on a nightly basis -- it was about money. And they have any number of others on the network saying outrageous things every day. If a large-scale advertiser boycott is launched, much like the boycott against Beck, it could have some serious financial implications on the Murdoch empire.
Originally Posted By LindsayC <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14142307" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/busi...14142307</a> Well the Empire is thankfully falling here in the UK... as News Corp pulls out of the bid to own all of BSkyB. It’s been an extraordinary week.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I do think the FOX empire looks at each business unit separately. So, while I may be "selling out" by continuing to watch FOX entertainment (though, I am proud to say I don't watch Idol) I do think people could collectively impact the ratings of FOX News and that would be felt.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I agree. If Fox News' ratings fell off significantly, they'd have to at least re-assess.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 That said, best case scenario is if those responsible for this (don't know if it'll snag Murdoch himself, but it certainly looks like it's closing in on his son) actually have to, you know, take responsibility including criminal responsibility for this. What a concept.
Originally Posted By oc_dean I have not been a fan of Rupert Murdoch .. Not since he began to turn working for 20th Century Fox into a hell-hole .. according to some people I knew who worked there. THEN ... the endless shenanigans with FOX news over the years. Rupert's over the top quest for more money .. more power .. more control ... then I just caught this on Yahoo: "Murdoch, savaged in parliament, pulls BSkyB bid" I'm surprised no one has ever attempted to flog this character for how totally rotten he is. Glad to see Great Britain put him in his place! Now the same needs to happen in America. But where I'm standing now - Australia ... I bet this country is so happy the day he left!!
Originally Posted By EdisYoda <<<Rupert's over the top quest for more money .. more power .. more control >>> You know that Elliot Carver in the James Bond film "Tomorrow Never Dies" was based on Murdoch.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 So was the lead character in a great play by David Hare I saw in London in 1985 with Anthony Hopkins called "Pravda." If you ever see it's being revived, you should see it.
Originally Posted By ecdc For those who still insist Fox and MSNBC are two sides of the same coin, let's compare. Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell routinely cover left-leaning stories. For example, Maddow has covered state legislatures attempts to functionally repeal Roe v. Wade by making it next-to impossible to get an abortion in states like Kansas or South Dakota. Now, you may agree or disagree with these actions, or you may not be interested in the reporting, however, it is factually accurate. Some of this reporting (though not in Maddow's case) may even be accompanied by blowhard commentary and obnoxious, over the top hosts like Ed Schultz. However, the reporting and commentary are usually accurate and verifiable. Compare this to Fox where, just yesterday, the host of the Glenn Beck replacement show said, "There were no terrorist attacks on American soil under President Bush" and no one on the panel bothered to correct him. One need only look to last week for multiple comments and reporting on Fox News that is factually inaccurate. At this point, insisting the two are the same means you're just not looking.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>"There were no terrorist attacks on American soil under President Bush"<< Technically, that is 100% true. At no time, ever, did a terrorist attack the soil upon which President Bush was actually standing. Watch for "Kar2oonMan's Korner" coming to Fox News, 5PM weeknights.
