Originally Posted By dlkozy OK this time without the CNN link that seemed to cause so much bother (you can look for yourself on their website). I am bothered by the Palin effigy that is being hung outside a home in CA. With violence against women on the rise I find it disturbing that others call this art. Someone earlier wondered if I had seen that an effigy of O being was hung on a campus. The difference that I see here is that their was an uproar-it was taken down right away and a scathing article was written. Their seems to be little public outcry and no uproar that an effigy of Palin is hung. The person who made that called it art-I call it an act against women everywhere.
Originally Posted By Mr X I think it sucks. I don't know if this qualifies as "outrage", but take note that Olbermann (like him or not) condemned it on his show and called the guy "worst person in the world". Think any of the right winger zones out there would do so in reverse? I doubt it (not many anyway). Anyway, yeah. I think it sucks. It's inappropriate and incites the spirit of violence which is like a cancer in America these days.
Originally Posted By barboy //-I call it an act against women everywhere.// --not me, I call it having fun at a politician's expense during Holloween. If one is out in public with crazy talk then it's open season be the figure is in a wheelchair, woman, elderly, young male or black. It's not funny to me because it looks so juvenile but I can see how that 'artist' is enjoying his creation.
Originally Posted By mawnck With large crowds in Pennsylvania literally threatening Obama's life - on camera - you're seriously upset about a Halloween display? You're really going with that?
Originally Posted By dlkozy You bet I am. I would be outraged had people been thinking it was funny if O was being hung in effigy-and someone called it art too.
Originally Posted By Mr X <a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tUf-cVLoPL4" target="_blank">http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=...-cVLoPL4</a> You mean like this?
Originally Posted By dlkozy No-never once on that youtube did someone proclaim it as art-they said it made them uneasy, hurtful, scary and it was racist. On Palin's people laughed, came and took pictures, made light of it. Different all together.
Originally Posted By mele The vast majority of people find it highly inappropriate so I don't see why we need to draw party lines here.
Originally Posted By mawnck Yep - here's not the place. Hanging anybody in effigy sucks. But I notice dlkozy still hasn't spoken up on his opinions about the Pennsylvania video.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <The vast majority of people find it highly inappropriate so I don't see why we need to draw party lines here.> Exactly. The OP's bias is showing clearly here. In the other thread, she was certain that if Obama had ever been hung in effigy, we'd never hear the end of it - either here or in the media. When it was pointed out that Obama HAD been hung in effigy earlier, but that it hadn't made a big stink (obviously, as she'd never even heard of it), she creates a new thread to try to claim somehow that the Palin thing is "worse." What's wrong with saying that both are tasteless and similar? Does EVERYTHING have to come down to "oh yeah? Well you guys are worse." ??
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Does EVERYTHING have to come down to "oh yeah? Well you guys are worse." ??<< You know, I think one of the reasons the McCain supporters may feel like we think everything they do is worse is that so much of what they've done in this election HAS been worse. I don't see how we can help that. It's not like it's our fault. We're just stating the obvious. This candidates in effigy thing is silly, though. I just watched a local news report about it. They interviewed several neighbors - in West Hollywood, mind you - and all but one were opposed to it (including a black guy who was REALLY opposed). The city government is trying to come up with a legal way to force its removal without violating that annoying free speech thingy, and the US secret service is investigating the perps. Meanwhile, in rural Pennsylvania, they're passing out pitchforks. And that situation won't be going away on November 1st.
Originally Posted By dlkozy >>>"In the other thread, she was certain that if Obama had ever been hung in effigy, we'd never hear the end of it - either here or in the media.z"<<< Dabob-don't put words in my mouth. I never said that "we'd never hear the end of it.."<<< try reading a post correctly for a change. >>>"obviously, as she'd never even heard of it), she creates a new thread to try to claim somehow that the Palin thing is "worse.""<<< Once again Dabob-you prove your lack of knowledge (don't you ever get tired of doing that?) The new thread was started because the original thread was deleted for fear of the CNN link that looked like it had a virus. Wrong again DB-what a surprise. And you are not well informed if you think that the O effigy was not a big stink-try some reading why dontcha. >>>"What's wrong with saying that both are tasteless and similar"<<< Said that-you do read don't you? >>>"Does EVERYTHING have to come down to "oh yeah? Well you guys are worse." ??"<<< Yeah, why is that Dems? Thousands of posts have been posted here on WE-most nasty from Dems! It is a constant barrage of nasty. Dems demonstrated that very sentence of >>>""oh yeah? Well you guys are worse.>>> by saying "But I notice dlkozy still hasn't spoken up on his opinions about the Pennsylvania video."<< LOL! >>>"This candidates in effigy thing is silly, though."<<< Sure, as long as it is the other guy=but Dems weren't screaming that earlier when the noose was on the other neck. I
Originally Posted By mawnck >>It is a constant barrage of nasty.<< I think you mean a constant barrage of *pointing out* the nasty. So dlkozy, any thoughts on the Pennsylvania video? Any at all? Good? Bad? Indifferent?
Originally Posted By mawnck I see a McCain supporter has made my point for me. Some high school kids went into a guy's yard and knocked over his McCain-Palin signs. Clearly they were being naughty and shouldn't have done it. What do you suppose his response was? <a href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1028081mccain1.html" target="_blank">http://www.thesmokinggun.com/a...in1.html</a>
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Once again Dabob-you prove your lack of knowledge (don't you ever get tired of doing that?)<< Wow, right away with the attacks. I'd put Dabob's knowledge up against yours any day of the week. Over the years he has consistently shown himself to be articulate and that he thinks things through before posting. But I understand why you felt the need to start a second thread and have the old one removed -- you looked pretty silly presupposing how Democrats would react to Obama being hung in effigy, when in truth they behaved no such way, as the linked article illustrated. Whoops. Your attempt to reframe the argument here isn't going much better, by the way.
