Originally Posted By Donny Firefighter responding to crash victims, handcuffed by California Highway Patrol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0dbpXSywDg#t=48
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/02/05/272144424/police-officer-arrests-firefighter-at-accident-scene-in-california">http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetw...lifornia</a> <> Police Officer Arrests Firefighter At Accident Scene In California February 05, 2014 7:27 PM How do we explain the arrest of a firefighter by a police officer at the scene of an accident — after an argument over where a fire truck should park? The authorities are still discussing the incident, which took place Tuesday night on California's I-805, where a car had rolled over at the center road barrier. As San Diego's , an argument broke out between a California Highway Patrol officer and a firefighter from Chula Vista, as they clashed over where the Chula Vista crew's fire engine should be stationed. Firefighters had placed their vehicle along the center road divider, close to where a car had flipped over, and behind an ambulance. Emergency personnel tended to the car's two occupants as the conflict went on around them. CBS 8's cameras captured the incident, which ended with the firefighter being handcuffed and placed in the back of a police cruiser. The firefighter, Jacob Gregoire, 36, was held in the police car for about 30 minutes before being released, CBS 8 says. The station posted video showing Gregoire talking to the news crew to be sure they knew what was taking place. "Hey, I just want to let you know, he's arresting me for not moving the fire truck," Gregoire can be heard yelling. And with that, he was handcuffed. Despite the unusual situation and the disagreement it followed, the firefighter and police officer aren't seen exhibiting much aggression toward one another in the video, which shows them talking as Gregoire is led away. The fire department's chief tells CBS 8 that while the CHP would have jurisdiction over a scene on the interstate, it wasn't yet clear whether the police had claimed control when the dispute escalated. The fire truck was reportedly the first to arrive at the scene. Members of the CHP and the Chula Vista fire department held a meeting Wednesday to discuss the conflict. A praises the fire department's members for not escalating the tension: "In an emergency, the Chula Vista Fire Department is responsible for the safety and care of the injured victims and for the safety of the crew. Our goal at an emergency is to secure the scene and begin emergency care and transport victims to the hospital as soon as possible. Last night, there were two injured passengers our crew needed to reach and treat in a rollover vehicle accident on Interstate 805. One of our firefighters on the scene was detained by the California Highway Patrol. I am very proud of how Engineer Jacob Gregoire and the other firefighters on the scene handled the situation. While we work very well together with the CHP 99% of the time, we need to find out what happened last night and how we can improve training and communication to prevent something like this from happening in the future." The CHP hasn't released a statement about the incident. Thanks to NPR Senior Editor Susan Vavrick for sending this story our way. <> Apparently, the firetruck was first on the scene before CHP showed up. The CHP officer asked the firefighter to move his truck and he refused. While Donny wants to believe that the first responders should be able to do whatever they wish at an accident scene, they do not have the final say on how the safety of the passing vehicles should be maintained. That job belongs to the CHP. And the CHP officer decided that the firetruck was not parked in the safest possible location. If the CHP is telling you to move your firetruck, you need to move it. Period. If anyone of us non-professionals had pulled over to assist the occupants of the flipped vehicle, and a CHP officer arriving on the scene told us to move our vehicle, what do you think would happen if we told the officer, "No, I'm leaving it where it is so I can help these people first." We'd be promptly arrested. And folks like Donny would be applauding the arrest because we were disrespectful of law enforcement. Well, same holds for firefighters. They don't have jurisdiction over the highways. They have to answer to CHP officers just as we do. The CHP officer has a duty to protect the safety of other drivers on that highway, not just the two occupants in the flipped vehicle. In his judgement, the firetruck was posing a dangerous hazard to those other drivers. The firefighter had no right to disagree with the CHP officer. He should have moved the truck. The firefighter was rightfully arrested for refusing to obey a law enforcement officer.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox I think I know, SPP. Donny saw that this happened in California, home to evil liberals. As a former firefighter or first responder or EMT or whatever he did that was related to what this guy did, he probably figured that the CHP officer was some kind of liberal jerk hellbent on punishing the good deed doin' firefighter. Too bad he failed to realize that this happened in Darrell Issa's district, one of the most conservative Republican areas in the country, home to some of the most conservative Republican cops and firefighters in the nation. If this had happened in a very red Southern state, I doubt Donny would have given it a second glance.
Originally Posted By Donny In one report they show the support truck was placed in a safety position and that the firemn were actively working on two victims.
Originally Posted By Donny OK now I am officially disgusted with this CHP officer www.cbs8.com/story/24637357/chp-handcuffs-firefighter-in-dispute-at-crash-scene
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder There's no way this is a right/left thing. Move this to Community or some other section.
Originally Posted By Donny just recently you posted "North Korea Lands A Man on the Sun" and that was not a right/left thing
