Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/10/lobbyist.fraud.ap/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITI CS/01/10/lobbyist.fraud.ap/index.html</a> According to the article, Delay wanted to shut down an Indian casino. This would have benefitted a client of Jack Abramoff who just happened to donate money to Delay right before Delay's demand.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer "At the time of the letter, Abramoff was working for the Louisiana Coushatta and had portrayed the Alabama-Coushatta's Houston-area casino as a threat to his client's casino." Nice. The lobbyist and Delay tried to use the federal government to shut down the business competitors of one of their donors. I understand that they also used gambling as a hook to rally conservative Christians behind the closure and to get them to contact their senators and representative - even though they were taking money from other casinos at the same time. Is Delay really the kind of guy those of you on the right really want to be defending?
Originally Posted By cmpaley Delay won't be charged with anything. He's a good, decent, innocent Republican and we all know that Republicans are god-like in every conceivable way. *GAG!*
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Is Delay really the kind of guy those of you on the right really want to be defending?> Is President Clinton really the kind of guy those of you on the left really want to be defending? Are Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid really the kinds of people those of you on the left really want to be defending? If Rep Delay is really guilty of corruption, then he should be convicted. Already, Republicans have pushed him out of his leadership position because he was tainted by corruption, although the evidence is preliminary. My memory is that when similar things were charged against Democrats, they stayed in power until they were convicted.
Originally Posted By ecdc Can't defend Delay so you attack people no one mentioned in the thread? Talk about your obfuscation. It reminds me of fights I used to have in elementary school. "Oh yea, well, well, he did it first!"
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/11/abramoff.probe/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITI CS/01/11/abramoff.probe/index.html</a> Charges are possibly coming. They're also looking at some Delay aides, despite Delay saying he wasn't a target.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Can't defend Delay so you attack people no one mentioned in the thread?> I'm not going to try to defend Delay. I was simply responding to Tom's question.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "Is President Clinton really the kind of guy those of you on the left really want to be defending? Are Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid really the kinds of people those of you on the left really want to be defending?" "I'm not going to try to defend Delay. I was simply responding to Tom's question." No reason to defend any of them on possible criminal charges right now, Doug.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Not right now. But when possible criminal charges were looming against President Clinton, most Democrats backed him fully. And there have been many charges of ethical misconduct against both Reid and Pelosi, although none have risen to the level of indictment.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "Not right now. But when possible criminal charges were looming against President Clinton, most Democrats backed him fully. And there have been many charges of ethical misconduct against both Reid and Pelosi, although none have risen to the level of indictment." All of which, in the here and now, garners a big yawn. But, the issue here is Delay, so no more trying to re-direct or re-frame, as you're prone to do so often. It's a shame Delay turned out to be such a disapointment. He's going to run into a lot of the same people on the way down he stepped on going up.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Remember this photo? Looks sillier as the days go by... <a href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1020051delay1.html" target="_blank">http://www.thesmokinggun.com/a rchive/1020051delay1.html</a>
