Originally Posted By ecdc <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/" target="_blank">http://www.forbes.com/sites/ri...k-obama/</a> It's odd that here's a straightforward set of facts (so far as I can tell; perhaps the methodology is off somewhere, but it looks accurate) that will be completely ignored by conservatives in exchange for truthiness.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Did you read the comments to the article? It's worse than here. It's also a sad reflection on how polarized things have become. For example, the absolute fact that the budget for Obama's first year was laregely a Bush budget. When something is in place FOUR MONTHS before Obama took office, how in the hell can he be responsible for it? Yet, some on the right insist he owns it, because well, dammit, they insist, and therefore, they're right and you're wrong.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<When something is in place FOUR MONTHS before Obama took office, how in the hell can he be responsible for it? Yet, some on the right insist he owns it, because well, dammit, they insist, and therefore, they're right and you're wrong.>> And those very same people, especially the idiots on Fox News, blamed Clinton for Bush's recession. In their eyes, Bush didn't create the recession; he supposedly inherited it from Clinton. So Republicans inherit stuff from previous Dem administrations and are off the hook. But Dems aren't given the same courtesy because, well, they're Dems. They're in office right this very minute, so it's obviously all their fault. And several posters on these boards, many who no longer post, took these actual positions. You all be hypocrites.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "It's odd that here's a straightforward set of facts (so far as I can tell; perhaps the methodology is off somewhere, but it looks accurate) that will be completely ignored by conservatives in exchange for truthiness." I caught Paul Ryan on Meet the Press yesterday and there he was on my television repeating the same old lies.... er, I mean tired talking points that Obama doesn't want to do anything about the government's "runaway" spending. I had to resist the urge to throw socks at his face on the screen.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Politifact changed it's rating on that from True to Partly True. Apparently there was some creative use of the term "discretionary spending" involved. Obama's spending is still quite low... way lower than the Republicans give him credit for. But not quite as low as the "facts" presented in the link indicate.
Originally Posted By ecdc ^^^Good to know. I need to go checkout what Politifact has to say. I don't always agree with their ratings, but I love their approach and that they at least explain why they rate something.
