Newt, King of the Elves, and Snow Queen all stoped

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    Originally Posted By Hista98

    <a href="http://progresscityusa.com/2010/02/10/and-the-hits-keep-on-comin/" target="_blank">http://progresscityusa.com/201...n-comin/</a>
    So unfortuantley 3 of disney and or pixars upcoming realeses have been shelved. Too bad too I would rather have seen them then a stupid seuel to MI.
     
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    Originally Posted By tashajilek

    "would rather have seen them then a stupid seuel to MI."

    Now now doesnt pay to be bitter.
     
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    Originally Posted By skinnerbox

    Agreed. Pixar's only sequel to date (as of this post) was stellar, much better than the original TS. I feel TS3 has the potential to be even better than TS2. I simply don't understand why Hista hates the idea of sequels so much.

    Pixar Animation is not Disney Animation.

    I don't expect Pixar sequels to be cheapquels.
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    As shown by TS2, I do have faith in Pixar creating good sequels. I can't stand the original TS, but the sequel is one of my favorite films. I would be fine if they made a sequel to just about any film, other than Monsters, Inc. The ending just wrapped everything up so nicely. In the others, there are still a few questions that you have and characters with stories to be told.

    Part of what makes MI so good is that it's very focused on the few characters in the film, and they all get a good conclusion at the end. Yah, Boo and Sulley are reunited just as the film ends, but I'm not sure I want to see what happens next. It's just such a great happy ending by leaving it to the imagination. I guess Celia and the intern-janitor guys might have more story to tell, but other than that, I feel like most of the characters have run their course. They could come up with new characters, but that's not really a sequel, it's more of a spin-off.

    I guess they could do something like TS2, where the original characters meet new ones (Jessie, Bullseye, Stinky Pete, Barbie, Mrs Potato Head, etc), but the original characters all have such strong personalities that it would be tough to do much with them. In Toy Story, there were so many characters that there was a ton of story left to be told, and none of them had particularly strong personalities, so they could do just about anything. The MI characters are all just like people you know, making the potential situations much more limited.

    I'm not completely opposed to Pixar creating sequels, I just don't see MI as having enough material left for much of a good one.
     
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    Originally Posted By Hista98

    that is exactly why I am not looking forward to MI 2. As for cars 2. Well i hated the first one and don't want to see another. To me doing 3 years worth of sequels seems to pin pixar as lazy. plus I very rarely see a good sequel.
     
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    Originally Posted By WilliamK99

    You do realize that you are freaking out and making assumptions based on rumors on a blog right?.....
     
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    Originally Posted By Hista98

    no they are based on my openions. how can me not liking cars be read from a blog?? I also feel that all the lose ends were tied up with the orginal MI and that a seuel will kill it. What part makes you think I'm responding to a blog entry?? All of these movies have already been announced. and i feel that no matter what the plot for MI 2 is it won't be good.
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    The only rumor that I'm assuming is true is they are making a sequel to Monsters, Inc. The rest of my thoughts and so on are just from inferences from seeing past sequels from various companies. The good ones seem to come from original films that have characters that aren't fully developed and have more of a story to tell.

    With something like Cars, I could see them being able to use just about all of the folks from Radiator Springs, since Lightning McQueen, Sally and Mater are really the only ones who have already had their story told. Add in a few new characters, and there's a lot to build a good story from. With Monsters, Inc, there really aren't that many supporting characters who could have a story built around them. They could introduce new characters, but I'm not sure if I care to see how the old characters with interact with them. I'd just rather have a fresh start completely in that case.
     
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    Originally Posted By mapleservo

    Hope this stuff isn't true. I was looking forward to the Snow Queen - and Newt sounded promising. I've got a lot of faith that Pixar can pull off some good sequels, but I'd hate to see that become a crutch.

    If there's one movie I'd like to see a sequel to, it's Incredibles - I just think that genre lends itself to episodic stories. But I'm guessing Disney will leave the superheroes to Marvel (They've sure been promoting Iron Man through the Disney channels.)
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    <i feel that no matter what the plot for MI 2 is it won't be good.>

    Not that you've made your mind up about it before seeing a single frame, or anything...
     
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    Originally Posted By skinnerbox

    I've always felt that MI was one of the few Pixar films that had good characters attached to a weak story. (I feel the same way about Bug's Life.)

    I could see a better story driving MI2, springing off from various monster folklore stories around the world. I'd like to see more of the "banished" monsters like Abominable Snowman.
     
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    Originally Posted By Hista98

    I would love to see an increbiles sequel. Al lsuperheor movies have sequels, and the incredibles was left so open. I'm amzazed they haven't done one yet.
     
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    Originally Posted By skinnerbox

    <<I'm amzazed they haven't done one yet.>>

    I'm not.

    Lasseter is smart enough to only let Bird direct an Incredibles sequel. And when everyone is honest with themselves, they don't want anyone but Bird directing the sequel, either. But he wants to focus only on live action right now, probably for the next several years if not longer.

    Brad Bird has wanted to direct live action forever. He's in his early fifties and animation has dominated 98% of his entire career. He wants to break out, and now's the best time for him to do it, while he's riding on such a successful wave after Incredibles and Ratatouille.

    I wouldn't blame him if he never went back to animation, if the production execs are happy with his work on Mission: Impossible IV. And if Brad decides to stay with live action from here on, I wouldn't expect to see an Incredibles sequel, ever.
     
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    Originally Posted By WilliamK99

    <i feel that no matter what the plot for MI 2 is it won't be good.>

    Not that you've made your mind up about it before seeing a single frame, or anything...<<

    You guys show less maturity than my 6 year old...

    He refuses to eat meat, fights for hours and refuses to eat it...

    One night we asked him to take a bite, he took a tiny bite, then started gagging.....basically he had already made up his mind that he hated meat, so when he tried it he hated it....

    same with those whining about Monsters Inc, or any other sequel, if you are already complaing that you hate it, you are acting very childish.....
     
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    Originally Posted By WilliamK99

    I mean at least wait until a preview or even a plot synopsis comes out.... Hating on a movie just because there is a 2 next to it is ridiculous....

    Your opinion would hold more water if you waited to hate until after a preview, hell even a teaser trailer would give you more credibility....
     
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    Originally Posted By Hista98

    I'm not saying I hate it I'm saying I would rather have an original then a sequel and I'm not looking forward to it. I will wait until it comes out though before deciding my final openion. Just to me other pixars films would have worked better if they really wanted a sequel. next thing you know they will make finding nemo 2
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    William, you do realize I was making the same point you were, right?
     
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    Originally Posted By skinnerbox

    I'm not sure why the demand for an original story is such a big deal here. Pixar doesn't always strike gold with their story ideas.

    newt was an original story that wasn't working after several years of development, so they pulled the plug.

    Ratatouille was an original story that wasn't working after several years of development, so they asked Brad Bird to rewrite a huge chunk of it and fix it in 18 months. Bird basically pulled a miracle out of his butt with Rat and saved Pixar's (and Disney's) butt.

    And how many times have the other films been rewritten, sometimes extensively? WALL-E's second half was seriously redesigned, going from rubbery aliens to humans spending centuries in space. (That's why they look they way they do. Instead of starting from scratch, Pixar recycled the alien primitives they had already designed and used them for the blubbery humans.) The finished product is far from what they started with, which is typical for many animated films.

    And who knows how well Brave will do. I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised by this film, but it is Pixar's first foray into the "chick flick" arena, so we shall see.

    And as for Finding Nemo 2... Ellen says she wants to do it again, even though Albert Brooks has stated no way, no how. Will there be a sequel? Probably not, even though it's still Pixar's highest grossing film to date. But that's OK.

    Pixar sequels are good films, so far. I don't know why this is such a problem.
     
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    Originally Posted By mapleservo

    >>And how many times have the other films been rewritten, sometimes extensively?

    Toy Story 2 was another example that had a very rocky start, so it doesn't mean the sequels will be immune to this either.

    But as long as they have the ideas to fill out a sequel (and I get they feeling Pixar has surplus ideas) I don't see an issue. TS2 contained several sequences which were dropped from the first movie because they just didn't "fit". Could be the same with MI2 and Cars 2.

    I do hope Pixar continues to bring in new ideas and new talent though. Worked great with Bird. It'll be interesting to see where Henry Selick ends up at Pixar.
     
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    Originally Posted By Hista98


    Pixar sequels are good films, so far. I don't know why this is such a problem
    There has only been one sequel so far though.
     

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