Originally Posted By mawnck Epic fail as a Capitol Hill protest today led by Michelle Bachmann. Akin led the crowd in the Pledge of Allegiance, after announcing that "it drives liberals crazy," and then got it wrong ... getting so carried away bellowing "under God" that he forgot about "indivisible." Strangely appropriate, no? <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29187.html" target="_blank">http://www.politico.com/news/s...187.html</a>
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy I wonder if the conservative pundits will ever point out that oaths of allegiance are typically the heavy handed tools used by totalitarian regimes?
Originally Posted By DAR <<I wonder if the conservative pundits will ever point out that oaths of allegiance are typically the heavy handed tools used by totalitarian regimes?>> For example: schools.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy I wonder if the GOP folks also know that the Pledge of Allegiance was written by a socialist? ;-)
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I wonder if the GOP folks also know that the Pledge of Allegiance was written by a socialist? << Yeah, but not the "under God" part.
Originally Posted By Mr X Personally, I always thought "indivisible" was kinda important. I can see why the "Under God!" crowd might not care so much though. Just so long as the "real America" remains indivisible in their opinions, particularly about God. *sigh*
Originally Posted By HRM Wasn't the reference to God not part of the original pledge, and actually added later?
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Wasn't the reference to God not part of the original pledge, and actually added later?<< Yep. First tossed in in 1948 by Louis A. Bowman, then made official by Congress in 1954 (at a time when it was politically expedient to be as rabidly Christian as humanly possible). <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_allegiance" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...legiance</a>
Originally Posted By Mr X In God We Trust wasn't originally on the money, either. It was first added to coins only during the Civil War times, but as for the bills it was much later than that... ***A law passed by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by the President on July 30, 1956, the President approved a Joint Resolution of the 84th Congress, declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States. IN GOD WE TRUST was first used on paper money in 1957, when it appeared on the one-dollar silver certificate. The first paper currency bearing the motto entered circulation on October 1, 1957.*** <a href="http://www.ustreas.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.ustreas.gov/educati...st.shtml</a>
Originally Posted By mele I no longer say "under God" when I say the PoA. I hate the reasons why it was added just as I hate the same crap that is STILL going on in our govt.
Originally Posted By jasmine7 Same here, mele. Actually, I started dropping the "under God" back when we said the pledge in elementary school. What can I say? I was a bit of a political kid, lol
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin I quit the pledge in jr high...seems to me that honoring the constitution would be more appropriate. The only real political things I do are vote, pause and and stand at attention during "colors" (I work on a military base and Colors is the raising and lowering of the flag). The other day was the Marine Corps Birthday and if you've ever been to a USMC thingy...you know that there is always a 'cake cutting' Yes, I said CAKE! Anyway, the way they do a ceremony, their youth, and those dress blues are the best uniform in any branch of the military, plus the precision and live brass military band always puts a lump in my throat...
Originally Posted By LoyalOrderWaterBuffa ~~~~seems to me that honoring the constitution would be more appropriate~~~~ saluting the stars and stripes, hournoring the constitUtion, holding the bald eagle nationally sacred, pledging allegence all mean the pretty much the sAme thing. would someone really hate the national anthem but love the pledge? is there anyone whO would burn a flag but hold the symbol of the bald eager sacred? Either you are a ~~~red blooded American~~~ or you are a commie HAhahahha
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 The sun on the meadow is summery warm The stag in the forest runs free But gathered together to greet the storm Tomorrow belongs to me The branch on the linden is leafy and green The Rhine gives its gold to the sea But somewhere a glory awaits unseen Tomorrow belongs to me Now Fatherland, Fatherland, show us the sign Your children have waited to see The morning will come When the world is mine Tomorrow belongs to me Tomorrow belongs to me Tomorrow belongs to me Tomorrow belongs to me The babe in his cradle is closing his eyes The blossom embraces the bee But soon says the whisper, arise, arise Tomorrow belongs to me Tomorrow belongs to me
Originally Posted By Mr X ***would someone really hate the national anthem but love the pledge?*** <---Loves the national anthem, hates the pledge. ***is there anyone whO would burn a flag but hold the symbol of the bald eager sacred?*** <---Unlikely to ever burn a flag, but would consider burning a bald eagle if hungry enough.
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin I'd never hold a bald eagle...they have razor sharp talons and that beak aint nothin' to play around with... "saluting the stars and stripes, hournoring the constitUtion, holding the bald eagle nationally sacred, pledging allegence all mean the pretty much the sAme thing." no they don't, and the fact that you don't recognize they are all different in meaning and importance, shows you have no understanding of any of them. I personally don't think of bald eagles or flags as sacred, they are merely symbols. And I agree with X...if I were cold and hungry I'd burn a flag to cook the eagle...and stay warm... <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance#Criticism_of_requiring_or_promoting_the_Pledge" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...e_Pledge</a> the pledge isn't even orginal...it's been changed several times..and when the "under God" part was added people thought they were quoting A. Lincoln, but at the time Lincoln used the phrase in the Gettysburg Address the commonly understood meaning of "under God" was "God willing" which doesn't even make sense in that context. "Either you are a ~~~red blooded American~~~ or you are a commie HAhahahha"" WTH? Either you are a McCarthist or an Idiot...and you're not even funny, which may be your worst trespass.
