Originally Posted By snappyfun <a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=xprnw.20100311.DC69102&show_article=1" target="_blank">http://www.breitbart.com/artic...rticle=1</a> "Obama Justice Department Shut Down Federal ACORN Investigation" "The documents reference serious allegations of corruption and voter registration fraud by ACORN as well as the Obama administration's decision to shut down a criminal investigation without filing criminal charges." This is so sad, I can only hope that Obama was not part of this.
Originally Posted By andyll Strange... I just read the article. (slow day) There is no mention of Obama shutting down any investigation. However there is this... "Other documents show that the Bush Justice Department failed to prosecute ACORN voter registration fraud of non-citizens in Phoenix, Arizona in 2007 because the allegations that led to the opening of the investigation were "unverifiable." " I think mr no fun failed to read the article he posted.
Originally Posted By snappyfun <a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=xprnw.20100311.DC69102&show_article=1" target="_blank">http://www.breitbart.com/artic...rticle=1</a> "The documents reference serious allegations of corruption and voter registration fraud by ACORN as well as the Obama administration's decision to shut down a criminal investigation without filing criminal charges." That’s right in first paragraph of article. Andy speak with forked tong.
Originally Posted By andyll So it does. So the Obama justice department cleared acorn. The states investigating acorn cleared them also. The Bush justice department cleared them. Are you seeing a pattern?
Originally Posted By snappyfun "So the Obama justice department cleared acorn." At no point in the article did it say they were cleared, they just dropped the investigation... Big Big difference.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Oh brother. Talk about "this is just too easy." That paragraph you seem to think is some sort of smoking guy only proves your lack of reading comprehension, or (more to the point) reading things filtered by your ideology. Allegations are just that. Allegations. Right wingers are always alleging things against ACORN, even filing nuisance lawsuits. They hate ACORN with a passion bordering on pathology, because ACORN is very good at registering minorities to vote (and they tend to vote Democratic, and we can't have that, can we?) as well as representing the interests of poor people against more powerful interests outside the voting booth. The Bush Admin. Justice Dept. looked into allegations against ACORN and found they were not substantiated. This is the Bush Justice Dept., mind you - if there had been anything to the allegations, they'd have prosecuted gleefully. But there wasn't. Yet the allegations continue like clockwork. So the Obama admin. was duty-bound to look into newer allegations and found - ta da! - that they were not substantiated. Likewise, the Brooklyn DA (a pretty aggressive DA) looked into the famous case of the Brooklyn ACORN office and found it to be bogus; that video that was shown everywhere had been heavily doctored by the right-wing activists who made it to make it look much worse than it was. In other words, to smear ACORN. You have obviously been imbibing the right-wing koolaid on ACORN, but that doesn't mean either the Bush or Obama Justice Departments have to.
Originally Posted By snappyfun Other documents show that the Bush Justice Department failed to prosecute ACORN voter registration fraud of non-citizens in Phoenix, Arizona in 2007 because the allegations that led to the opening of the investigation were "unverifiable." Notably, the FBI document detailing this questionable decision reveals that a "draft Intelligence Bulletin... concludes that ACORN's employment practices perpetuate fraudulent voter registration." The two cases where not connected except that ACCORN was involved. But nice try.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 You really do have reading comprehension difficulty, don't you? If the Bush admin. had found anything substantial on ACORN (and a "draft intelligence bulletin" is worth about as much as the paper it's printed on if it goes no farther than that), they'd have gleefully prosecuted. They didn't. I'd say "nice try" for your post, but it doesn't even really rise to that level.
Originally Posted By andyll <<At no point in the article did it say they were cleared, they just dropped the investigation... Big Big difference.>> No... there really is no difference. The only difference is how you write to article. I'm sure everyone noticed where this article came from...
Originally Posted By snappyfun >>No... there really is no difference. The only difference is how you write to article.<< One means they found nothing wrong that they can prosecute for or there was not enough evidence in the prosecutors mind. The other says that they are hiding something, or they can reopen it at anytime. Most open mined people think Obama is hiding something, knowing his involvement with ACCORN.
Originally Posted By mousermerf *double checks* Nope, still don't care. And the "right" open minded? HA!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Wow, what a brilliant rejoinder. <Most open mined people think Obama is hiding something, knowing his involvement with ACCORN.> Oh please. Only people listening to the noise machine think that. Anyone objective would see that both Bush and Obama Justice Departments have reached the same conclusions and there really is "no there, there" when it came to these allegations.
Originally Posted By Labuda Wow, snappy - you've reached a new low. Laughing about the fact that those of us on the left are open-minded and think freely? Why?
Originally Posted By snappyfun laughing because no person on earth is more narrow minded then an american liberal. And this comes from a guy sitting in golden boy pizza in san francisco!
Originally Posted By Labuda Dude, you are sooooo wrong it's pitiful. Anyhow, enjoy dinner with your boyfriends up there in San Fran.
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