Originally Posted By gadzuux <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2006/06/09/EDGDOILMAT1.DTL" target="_blank">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2006/06/09/EDGDOILMAT1.DTL</a> Cancerous politics - Friday, June 9, 2006 A WONDER DRUG for women has just become available. But if a small group of politically prominent social conservatives have their way, many of them won't have access to it. Gardasil, the world's first vaccine that protects against cervical cancer, was just approved by the Food and Drug Administration. It has a smashing success rate when it comes to protecting against the two types of human papillomavirus responsible for about 70 percent of cervical cancer rates. Doctors and health experts have set a low target age for vaccination -- as young as 9 -- because it works best before subjects start having sex. Many public-health experts want the vaccination to be required for public-school students. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ So here we have the literal "cure for cancer" and yet christian conservative groups are active opposing it because they're afraid it will lead to promiscuity. And the administration may indeed cave to their irrational hysteria. Can you believe it?!
Originally Posted By mele Wow. Which group of kids is worrying about cervical cancer as a reason to not have sex? Pregnancy and STDs barely give them pause...but cervical cancer? Political aspect aside, thanks for posting this. My daughter is 7 and we have lost many family members to various forms of cervical, ovarian and uterine cancer on both sides of my family.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Someone tell James Dobson and his ilk that if it wasn't for his parents having sex, he wouldn't be here to spout off these ridiculous statements. It seems he's lost sight of that fact.
Originally Posted By idleHands I personally don't believe that THEY believe their own rhetoric. These radical theocrats most likely don't want their precious tax dollars being used to "save" the lives of individuals whom they don't care about. They'd rather the tax money be spent on themselves, or like-minded white Republican Christians. But to come out against the vaccine because of the expense to the taxpayer for low-income citizens, sounds cold and inhumane. So, they disguise their bigotry and hatred with concerns about promiscuity, a topic which has a proven track record with the current administration. I firmly believe this has nothing to do with issues regarding sex. If this vaccine were $5 per shot, I doubt we'd hear a peep out of this group.
Originally Posted By mele Honestly, I sort of feel sad for these people. How good could their sex lives actually be? LOL
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "How good could their sex lives actually be? LOL" This assumes they have one. From the way they make it sound, it's purely a necessary evil.
Originally Posted By Dirk_D_from_Oregon I dont know. Ive dated some very religious girls, both Catholic and Mormon. Let me tell you from experience, these were for sure the most uninhibited wild girlfriends of my dating career.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 A British friend told me years ago that "the best sex scandals are always with the Tories."
Originally Posted By gadzuux The same concept is true here in the US too. A sex scandal involving a prominent republican or conservative pundit is always more glaring because of the moralistic views they so freely espouse. It's the hypocrisy as much as the incident itself. If it's a democrat or 'liberal' luminary, it's not quite as juicy because they haven't previously set themselves up as an example of rectitude.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Well, that's part of it, but my Brit friend insists that, at least over there, the Tories are always freakier. If it's Labour, it's usually just that someone cheated on his wife - nothing more than that. With the Tories it tends to be, shall we say, more exotic.
Originally Posted By barboy "I dont know. Ive dated some very religious girls, both Catholic and Mormon. Let me tell you from experience, these were for sure the most uninhibited wild girlfriends of my dating career." YOU KNOW IT!!!! I'll back that up.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Let me tell you from experience, these were for sure the most uninhibited wild girlfriends of my dating career." oh yeah? they let you hold their hand?
Originally Posted By DAR A few things went to Catholic schools in grade, middle and high school. So I can back those statements about the wildness, okay more towards high school. To me Focus on the Family is no more than a fringe group that shouldn't be taken seriously, but sadly they are by many people. Finally and I realize this may not be a popular sentiment. I'm glad they were able to find cure for cervical cancer. And I'm glad that Susan Komen foundation has grown, I really am. But I'm so tired of seeing anything to do with raising money for cancer that affects mostly women. It affects us men too. A little balance would nice lately.
Originally Posted By Luzdivina >>Can you believe it?!<< Of course not! <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/08/health/07cnd-vaccine.html?ex=1307419200&en=a66cee2833b26f66&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06 /08/health/07cnd-vaccine.html?ex=1307419200&en=a66cee2833b26f66&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss</a> "A panel of independent vaccine experts brought together by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is scheduled to decide on June 29 who should get the vaccine. The panel is likely to recommend vaccinations for all 11- to 12-year-old girls, while agreeing that girls as young as 9 or women as old as 26 can get the vaccine if they wish. The panel will almost certainly avoid suggesting that states make vaccinations mandatory. Public health officials invariably assess voluntary vaccination efforts before attempting mandatory ones. Many states will not have the money to do much more, said Dr. Leah Devlin, state health director for North Carolina and president of the Association of State and Territorial Health Officials. Already, North Carolina has been unable to provide six federally recommended vaccines to all children because of cost, Dr. Devlin said. The state cannot mandate any vaccine that it does not agree to provide." So, it looks like there are other issues of concern, like $$, that do not involve those evil "Theo-Cons"
Originally Posted By JohnS1 I have asked this before, without anyone answering me, but now I have two questions - my first (and original question) - what exactly is a neo-con (and who came up with this term) and now, what is this new term - "theocon." I confess that I have never heard it used before.
