Originally Posted By PlainoLJoe Im loving this. If traffic is gonna be like this every day, I say protest everyday!!!!! VIVA OPEN FREEWAYS!!!!!
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I ran over to the Target in my neighborhood which caters to many hispanic people and it was pretty dead in there. And this one is always pretty crowded.
Originally Posted By oc_dean I didn't have to work today. Suited me fine - and not deal with any traffic problems. Regarding this whole protest .. I'd love to ask every single one of them: "Did you apply for citizenship papers before you decided to storm the streets? DID YOU?" Because if they didn't - they don't have a leg to stand on! It would be like the European immigrants 100 years ago, bypassing Ellis Island and say - "screw citizenship! I demand to get what I want without becoming a citizen."
Originally Posted By avromark For those of us not local is there a link for this or some background available?
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Here is one news story talking about protesters throwing rocks at police officers in Santa Ana, just south of Disneyland. <a href="http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/local/communities/santaana/article_1125684.php" target="_blank">http://www.ocregister.com/ocre gister/news/local/communities/santaana/article_1125684.php</a> And here is an AP general story about what happened in LA <a href="http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060502/D8HBB8BO3.html" target="_blank">http://apnews.myway.com/articl e/20060502/D8HBB8BO3.html</a>
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Here is one news story talking about protesters throwing rocks at police officers in Santa Ana, just south of Disneyland.<< Can you say Aztlan?
Originally Posted By fkurucz Anyway, in my neck of the woods there was no real impact caused by the demonstrators.
Originally Posted By cmpaley Out of the dozens of marches all around the country, a small band of people throwing rocks makes them the army of Aztlan? Here is the most important part of the story: >>Assistance was requested about 6 p.m. As soon as more officers are on the scene, people who don’t leave the area will be arrested, Carrillo said. The aggressive crowd members are different from those who marched downtown earlier today, he said.<< Notice that? "THE AGRESSIVE CROWD MEMBERS ARE DIFFERENT FROM THOSE WHO MARCHED DOWNTOWN EARLIER TODAY" What does that tell you? One last thing, there is no means for applying for permanent residence or citizenship, so that argument is moot.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder The courthouse I usually work in is next to MacArthur Park, where the seond L.A. demonstration began at 4:00 p.m. Since surrounding streets were going to be closed by 2:00 p.m. at the latest, we were forced to cut short court at noon today, which is four hours earlier than we're normally done. For me, it meant an early day home, but for some people whose cases didn't get finished it means they have to come back another day.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "One last thing, there is no means for applying for permanent residence or citizenship, so that argument is moot." Sure there is, you just don't like it.
Originally Posted By cmpaley >>"One last thing, there is no means for applying for permanent residence or citizenship, so that argument is moot." Sure there is, you just don't like it.<< Show me. Aside from family sponsorship for close relatives, very highly skilled employment or very rare lottery slots, how does one immigrate to the United States? These three opportunities leaves most of the illegal immigrant population ineligible for entry under any circumstances. So, if you know something we don't, please enlighten us.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder <a href="http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/" target="_blank">http://www.usimmigrationsuppor t.org/</a> I have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for illegals who sneak over here and proceed to suck the welfare system dry, utilize section 8 housing, get free medical care, etc. etc. etc. Maybe of those people didn't live off the fat of the land it wouldn't be so hard for others to do it legally. Physician, heal thyself.
Originally Posted By cmpaley First, that's not the USCIS website. Second, what about the ones who DON'T "suck the welfare system dry, utilize section 8, get free medical care, etc. etc. etc.?"
Originally Posted By jdub >>I have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for illegals who sneak over here and proceed to suck the welfare system dry, utilize section 8 housing, get free medical care, etc. etc. etc. << :I Of course, the MAJORITY of people doing this are born/bred U.S. citizens, so-- what about THEM? One of the problems with the immigrant debate is the sterotyping of an entire population of people as leeches.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Sterotyping or not .. It does not change the fact of those who defy a process that we have - and that's to step into the right offices to apply for citizenship. How can that be debatable?
Originally Posted By jdub Stereotyping DOES distort facts; this cartoon image of welfare cheats, as well as the oversimplified idea of "going into the right offices" and following the "process" also ignores the fact that there are wonderful, brilliant, educated people who do not fit the criteria for coming in, or come from a country that's already exceeded its quota. Sympathy is not a must, but learning the facts of the system and of hopeful Americans is not a bad idea.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Gee ... I think I won't bother to go into a DMV anymore to renew my driver's license or car registeration - I'll make my own rules! And I think I'll protest the streets to say Registeration for car and licenses? We don't need no stinkin' registerations!
Originally Posted By oc_dean All that being sad jdub ..... our country is overwhelmed, and breaking at the seems. We cannot carry all the weight of the entire world.
