Originally Posted By ecdc <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm" target="_blank">http://www.usatoday.com/news/w ashington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm</a> USA Today broke with this story today. I can't imagine how this one will be spun, but I'm sure it will. The National Security Agency created a database of calls from tens of millions of Americans - not just those suspected of ties to Al Qaeda. As USA Today points out, most of these people are not suspected of any crimes. Their sources added that the agencies goal is to "create a database of every call ever made" within the nation's borders."
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Stupid story, more scare mongering by anti Bush, pro terrorist people. Go ahead, stop Bush from trying to stop terrorist attacks. The sane American people will love that.... not. Oh, while your at it, tell us a few people who have had their privacy vilolated by the " spying ". There must be dozens of cases out there you can reference since this is worth of starting a new thread about.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Well, let's see...the phone company knows who I call. I guess I'm not too worried if the government knows either. In fact...mabye they can break into the call and tell my wife and mother-in-law to keep it under an hour.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Well, let's see...the phone company knows who I call. I guess I'm not too worried if the government knows either.>> I think that is something people forget. It this day of massive databases containing information on everyone about darned near everything, there is no such thing as privacy any more. It may not be a good thing, but it is the way it is.
Originally Posted By PsylocibeFrog i love how whenever people question what is being done, beaumandy calls them "pro terrorist". I BELIEVE IT WAS NAZI PARTY OFFICIAL HERMAN GORING WHO SAID: “Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.â€
Originally Posted By JohnS1 And your point is??? Bush is at 31%, so his scare tactics must really be working. Not.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Oh, while your at it, tell us a few people who have had their privacy vilolated by the " spying ". There must be dozens of cases out there you can reference since this is worth of starting a new thread about. >>> There are. Almost 25 dozen million.
Originally Posted By EdisYoda I have nothing to hide, yet I don't want to the government to know every little thing I do. It's a total invasion of my privacy. Sure my phone number and other information is in who knows how many business databases, and I think that too is an invasion of my privacy. Noone needs to know this stuff, especially a government who may (or admitedly may not) try to use it against me because they suddenly think that people with blue eyes are subversive.
Originally Posted By CrouchingTigger According to reports, only Qwest refused to comply with the request for the phone records because they didn't believe it was legal. Now, if the request _was_ legal, and Qwest refused to comply, why hasn't Qwest been forced to comply legally, hmmmm? Could it be that the NSA knew it didn't have a leg to stand on?
Originally Posted By mele "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
Originally Posted By EdisYoda This following quote, taken from an MSNBC.com article ( <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5961048/from/RS.5/" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/59 61048/from/RS.5/</a> ) sums it up for me: <<<Russert: Quest wanted to know who authorized this program. America has very strict laws on collecting this data and sharing it. You know there’s another piece of this. It’s not only telephone calls, but email traffic. And when you couple this with other data collection – when you go to a grocery store or drug store and you give them a little card for discount, they also record your purchase – put those lists together and you have a complete profile of “Joe Smith on First Street.†These are the drugs he takes, these are the foods he buys, these are the calls he makes, these are the credit lines he has. Pretty soon both the government and private sector companies know everything about you. It’s pretty eerie. That’s why this program will have to be explained.>>> I couldn't have put it any better if I'd said it myself.
Originally Posted By JohnS1 This is terrible. Bush is almost violating as many civil rights by doing this as - oh, say, Franklin Roosevelt during WWII. What hypocrirsy. The Dems who are speaking against this all approved it long ago. Now they sound like Claude Rains in Casablanca when he says "I'm shocked - shocked to hear that gambling is going on here!" just before he picks up his winnings.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Quest was the only company not willing to help track what the terrorists were doing so of course they are going to be the libs hero. Funny how America has no problem with this but the democrats still are trying to make it the " scandal " of the week. I dare the libs to demand we drop the NSA program since they are playing the fake outrage card.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin >> If someone can tell us what liberties they have lost from this at one time useful terrorist spy program I would like to hear it. What we have lost is a program that kept my family safe along with your families because some lib decided to help the terrorists by leaking national security secrets. Why do the libs hate my country so much?
Originally Posted By mele <<Funny how America has no problem with this but the democrats still are trying to make it the " scandal " of the week.>> Anyone else see something really funny about this sentence?
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Originally Posted By Beaumandy No, you saying the war was so Bush could get revenge for his daddy was the dumbest. You have had many second place finishes regarding dumb statements from the Michael Moore playbook but I am to tired to remember them at this moment. Oh, your total lack of understanding regarding the establishmnet clause was pretty dumb also. The libs hate America and what we stand for. It's why they would cheer Quest for refusing to help us track terrorists. Throw in their hatred for Capitalism, the military, Christianity, the family unit, wanting to burn the flag, wanting Saddam in power... you get the idea.
Originally Posted By Shooba >>"Why do the libs hate my country so much?" One of the dumbest things ever posted here.<< I'll second that. It's not the "libs" that are full of hatred here...
Originally Posted By oc_dean Just put on FOX news. Now there's a place full of hatred. I personally call it: The Hate Factor
