Originally Posted By Mort2 From this AP wire story: "Bush declared four days after the storm, "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees" that gushed deadly flood waters into New Orleans. But the transcripts and video show there was plenty of talk about that possibility _ and Bush was worried too. " The video referenced in this story just broke on the cable news channels. Here is a link to the AP story: <a href="http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/01/D8G31G2O0.html" target="_blank">http://www.breitbart.com/news/ 2006/03/01/D8G31G2O0.html</a>
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh This appears to be the typical attack of taking comments out of context and then saying they contradict each other, so one must be a lie. I'm sure those predisposed to thinking the President is deceitful will continue to criticize him with such a small amount of evidence, but it's not very convincing otherwise.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA President Bush didn't really say that. It was done with special effects and magic.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Either Mr. Bush knew the dangers ahead of time or he didn't. Not much point in trying to clean up his plate for him if he's lying about it all now. After all, this wouldn't be the first lie he's told since being in office.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh No chance he couldn't of know of some of the dangers, but not the full magnitude, eh?
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder He's either giving out misinformation or he lacked the capability to fully comprehend the information at the time. I could go with either one.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh And why have you've decided on those two possibilities, and no others?
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder I truly believe Bush is one of the most intellectually challenged Presidents we've ever had, and I'm not saying that just to be contrary. I base this on my observations of the man in public, especially when he has to speak extemporaneously. While there are many people who are intelligent but can't articuate very well, Bush does not present that self to me whatsoever. He's got some core values, and he relies om his advisors to tell him what to do in line with them. There's no way anyone can tell me in a room filled with Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rove and Bush our President is the brightest bulb there. Likely, it goes in the order I listed. My viewpoint was solidified for me during the debates and then cemented later watching him trying to explain his Social Security program, which was really no ore his than it was mine. In the debates, putting aside ideology, his performance was embarrassing. He did not demonstrate any command of the issues and could not speak off the cuff to save his life. It was pathetic to see him keep falling back on "it's hard work" over and over while sputtering threw his anger at being put on the spot. As for Social Security, I know I cut and pasted his attempt at explaining that along with his senior citizen drug prescription plan, and there literally wasn't a complete sentence in the entire thing. So yeah, for me, if I had to choose, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and say he didn't lie about Katrina, he just didn't know what the hell he was talking about.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Sorry, my post 14 was in response to your post 11. That's what I get for going off to make dinner and not refreshing when I got back.
Originally Posted By AgentLaRue Weather expert to Bush during the Katrina Preparation meetings: we are very concerned with the possibility of the levees breaching, which would be disastrous. Bush after the levees breached, on national t.v.: "I'm certain no one anticipated the breach of the levees." Several possible conclusions: 1. Bush lied. 2. Bush failed to hear what he was being told at the distaster preparation meeting. 3. Bush heard what was said, but failed to comprehend the significance. 4. You're so committed to Bush that you can't bring yourself to accept any of the above. None are any more comforting than the other.
Originally Posted By Dirk_D_from_Oregon STPH: "I truly believe Bush is one of the most intellectually challenged Presidents we've ever had." "I base this on my observations of the man in public, especially when he has to speak extemporaneously." Interesting opinion. Here are some facts about Bush Jr. -Received a bachelor’s degree in history from Yale University in 1968. -served as an F-102 fighter pilot in the Texas Air National Guard. -Received a Master of Business Administration from Harvard Business School in 1975. -Assembled the group of partners who purchased the Texas Rangers baseball franchise in 1989 -November 8, 1994, was elected Governor of Texas. -Became the first Governor in Texas history to be elected to consecutive 4-year terms when he was re-elected on November 3, 1998. -Responsable for enacting No Child Left Behind Act of 2001. I am sorry but I must disagree with your assesment that Bush is "mentally challenged". You are saying you base this opinion on his ability to speak publicly? There have been many great minds in history that were not necessarily gifted orators. I'm not even putting Bush in the gifted mind category, only history can tell. But how can you say that a man that has a degree from Yale and Harvard, flew jets in the military and has basically succeeded in virtually every endeavor thus far in his life is "mentally challenged?"
Originally Posted By AgentLaRue Bush following Katrina: ""I'm certain no one anticipated the breach of the levees." From today's AP story: "Federal officials warned President Bush and his homeland security chief of possible devastation just before Hurricane Katrina struck. The warnings were that the storm could breach levees, risk lives in the New Orleans Superdome and overwhelm rescuers."
