Originally Posted By Dirk_D_from_Oregon Beaumandy said something that I found very interesting. He said that the right needs someone to balance talking heads on the left such as Al Franken.....and that Ann Coulter serves that purpose. Interesting. I started comparing those two personalities. You know what? They both have the same type of delivery with some very interesting differences. Here are my observations: (imo) -I find Coulter to be funny/witty. -Franken bores me. Not funny. -Coulter, whether you like her or not, deals in strictly facts. She spins the heck out of things, but everything she says is fact. I challenge anyone to find anything Coulter has ever lied about. -Franken has been proven a liar on many occasions. <a href="http://www.lyingliar.com/media/theview.htm" target="_blank">http://www.lyingliar.com/media /theview.htm</a> <a href="http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/michellemalkin/2003/08/22/168174.html" target="_blank">http://www.townhall.com/opinio n/columns/michellemalkin/2003/08/22/168174.html</a> <a href="http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=10611" target="_blank">http://www.frontpagemag.com/Ar ticles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=10611</a> There are sooooooo many links Ann seems smart. Intelligent. Witty. Definately good looking. I dont get that from Franken. I asked 6 women and every one said Franken looks like a stooge. Sorry Beau, its not balanced at all. Ann Coulter absolutely TROUNCES the liberal left. And there is nobody from there that can rival her wit and looks. Sorry. Before you throw in your 2 cents worth, please be respectful of others in your replies so the thread doesnt get shut down
Originally Posted By wahooskipper They are both extremists who try to make a point by being loud rather than intelligent. So, I dislike them equally.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Beaumandy said something that I found very interesting. He said that the right needs someone to balance talking heads on the left such as Al Franken.....and that Ann Coulter serves that purpose." You've got to be kidding. There's the struggling Air America and then there's Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage et al and a thousand local radio imitators of Hannity, Limbaugh and Savage. Talk radio is COMPLETELY dominated by the right, which makes this "elite media" whine even more specious. This entire notion is a joke.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Coulter, whether you like her or not, deals in strictly facts.<< So now it's a 'fact' that the women from New Jersey are 'enjoying their husband's deaths'? Yesterday, she started wondering if they were all about to be divorced before their husbands were killed. Of course, there's nothing to suggest that, no evidence whatsoever. Just her fring off more baseless, hateful attacks. Yep, she's pure facts, all the way. She does what she does for shock value. The far right eats it up. As to whose worse, who cares? It seems that each extreme wants to justify ugly comments by saying "Well, those guys do that all the time. Why can't we?" Two wrongs, and all that. I thought everyone was taught that as a child, but apparently not...
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>They are both extremists who try to make a point by being loud rather than intelligent.<< There you go.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building," The New York Observer quoted her as saying on Aug. 20, 2002. She clarified those remarks with RightWingNews.com: "Of course I regret it. I should have added, 'after everyone had left the building except the editors and reporters.'"<< Godless, indeed.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip The major difference is that while the right laps up every bit drivel coulter spews forth, I personally know of no one on the left who takes Franken seriously. The guy is rather amusing at times, but he's a COMEDY WRITER for chrissakes. Who would take anything he says seriously?
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Well, someone built a radio station around him. Someone took him seriously.
Originally Posted By Shooba I don't have a clue what Franken writes in his books or says on the radio, so I don't have an opinion on him. I do know that some on the right will defend anything said by Coulter. The fact that anyone can defend her in light of her recent comments, disgusts me.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I don't defend what the words she used. But I do understand the root of the issue which was to say that those women are using a tragedy to put forth a political agenda. If that is all Ann said it would not have made for a national story.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <Well, someone built a radio station around him. Someone took him seriously.>> You could build a radio station around Garrison Keillor too, but that doesn't mean you would take his political comments all that seriously. There is a difference between entertainers and political commentators.
Originally Posted By jasmine7 <<But I do understand the root of the issue which was to say that those women are using a tragedy to put forth a political agenda.<< But these women are hardly the first to use a personal tragedy to front an agenda, be it political or otherwise. Katie Couric did the same thing with colon cancer after the death of her husband, Michael J. Fox with his own disease, etc. etc. etc. Just because these four have a liberal political agenda (or point of view) does not mean that they have less of a right to express that.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Franken gets more airtime via the political right complaining about him than he ever did on Air America. In fact, I bet 90% of his radio audience consisted of Very, Very Angry Conservatives (increasingly becoming a third party unto themselves, talk radio listeners who have been convinced taht the GOP has gone all liberal) who tuned in to hate him.
Originally Posted By Shooba >>They have every right to do it. I'm not saying they don't.<< And no one is saying they are above criticism. Coulter's comments were not about discussing an issue, they were a flat-out attack on these women, nothing more. Too many people seem to go beyond having a differing opinion, they have to hate and vilify those they disagree with, which is sad.
Originally Posted By jasmine7 Sorry, skipper, I wasn't trying to bash on you or say that you were saying they didn't have the right to their opinion. I've been meaning to say that for a couple of days now, and what you said was a good jumping off point for that. It was really directed towards others here who seem to want to shut them up completely and deny them their right to their opinion.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Kar200n...much the same way liberals tune in to hate on Rush<< Yep. There was something like that in the Howard Stern movie -- an exec was talking about how fans tuned into his radio show for some length of time. His critics listen far longer.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 From the paper this morning (typing it verbatim, so no link), in an article about Coulter's appearance at a Long Island bookstore... "Ann Coulter has become a legend in her own mind," said Rep. Peter King (R-Seaford), who called Coulter's words and actions "disgraceful." King, who himself has clashed with the four New Jersey widows and says they should not be seen as representative of other 9/11 families, said Coulter's comments "went beyond all limits of decency." So even if you have a problem with these widows for whatever reason, there is still such a thing as decency - and Coulter unquestionably crossed it.
