Originally Posted By woody The video ad says McCain can't use a computer and can't use email. <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/2008/09/obama_still.html" target="_blank">http://www.realclearpolitics.c...ill.html</a> Yeah, it's factual alright. There's a reason for that. McCain has a disability. <a href="http://www.pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/archives2/024245.php" target="_blank">http://www.pajamasmedia.com/in...4245.php</a> "The reason he doesn't send email is that he can't use a keyboard because of the relentless beatings he received from the Viet Cong in service to our country. . . . McCain's severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes." -- Obama's comeback is getting harder. CRASH and BURN.
Originally Posted By woody The video ad says McCain can't use a computer and can't use email. <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/2008/09/obama_still.html" target="_blank">http://www.realclearpolitics.c...ill.html</a> Yeah, it's factual alright. There's a reason for that. McCain has a disability. <a href="http://www.pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/archives2/024245.php" target="_blank">http://www.pajamasmedia.com/in...4245.php</a> "The reason he doesn't send email is that he can't use a keyboard because of the relentless beatings he received from the Viet Cong in service to our country. . . . McCain's severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes." -- Obama's comeback is getting harder. CRASH and BURN.
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster McCain is catching up to Obama because he has turned the election in the Sarah Palin Show. She's all anyone wants to talk about which is pure gold for him. McCain has no new direction to take this country in and as long as people are distracted by this lipstick-wearing pit-bull (her words) he stays in the race. Once the Palin media frenzy has run its course then McCain's numbers will dip back to where they belong.
Originally Posted By woody >>lipstick-wearing pit-bull (her words)<< No, you got that wrong. She's a lipstick wearing hockey mom. Quote "I was just your average hockey mom. I love those hockey moms, you know, they say, what is the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick." --- Did you realize that Obama called Palin "Lipstick" on David Letterman? I guess its better than "sweetie" or "pig". At least he finally clarified his insults for everyone to understand without any nuance. Whatever he says, he finally means it.
Originally Posted By DAR I need to get to bed but I'll say this in closing. Obama supporters defend this ad. Shouldn't his campaign staff checked to see maybe why McCain can't use a computer is physical?
Originally Posted By DAR See proof I need to get to bed Shouldn't his campaign staff checked to see maybe the reason why McCain can't use a computer is physical???
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster Maybe it's not just physical? There are amazing technologies that allow virtually anyone with any disability to use a computer. McCain's physical problems don't prevent him from using modern technology.
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster I think the ad is fine. McCain could use a computer if he wanted to.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Obama supporters defend this ad. Shouldn't his campaign staff checked to see maybe why McCain can't use a computer is physical?" I dunno. Did this ad appear before or after McCain was on the View and justified his ads which distort the truth about sex ed for 5 year olds by saying that he wouldn't play dirty if Obama would just agree to Town Hall debates? If there was ever a lamer explanation for lying than that I don't remember it.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer From an interview that the New York Times did back in July, 2008.... <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/13/us/politics/13text-mccain.html?_r=4&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07...f=slogin</a> >>Q: What websites if any do you look at regularly? Mr. McCain: Brooke and Mark show me Drudge, obviously, everybody watches, for better or for worse, Drudge. Sometimes I look at Politico. Sometimes RealPolitics, sometimes. (Mrs. McCain and Ms. Buchanan both interject: “Meagan’s blog!”) Mr. McCain: Excuse me, Meagan’s blog. And we also look at the blogs from Michael and from you that may not be in the newspaper, that are just part of your blog. Q: But do you go on line for yourself? Mr. McCain: They go on for me. I am learning to get online myself, and I will have that down fairly soon, getting on myself. I don’t expect to be a great communicator, I don’t expect to set up my own blog, but I am becoming computer literate to the point where I can get the information that I need – including going to my daughter’s blog first, before anything else. Q: Do you use a blackberry or email? Mr. McCain: No Mark Salter: He uses a BlackBerry, just ours. Mr. McCain: I use the Blackberry, but I don’t e-mail, I’ve never felt the particular need to e-mail. I read e-mails all the time, but the communications that I have with my friends and staff are oral and done with my cell phone. I have the luxury of being in contact with them literally all the time. We now have a phone on the plane that is usable on the plane, so I just never really felt a need to do it. But I do – could I just say, really – I understand the impact of blogs on American politics today and political campaigns. I understand that. And I understand that something appears on one blog, can ricochet all around and get into the evening news, the front page of The New York Times. So, I do pay attention to the blogs. And I am not in any way unappreciative of the impact that they have on entire campaigns and world opinion. Q: You read newspapers then. Mr. McCain: I read them most all every day. Q: You and Obama are both newspaper and book readers. Do you read them in the old paper version or do you read them online? Mr. McCain: I love to read them in the print form, and the reason why I do is because so much, the prominence of the story matters. If I read a story and say, Oh my God, did you see this? But it’s back on A26, it doesn’t have the impact of what are still – even though it’s declining – what are still, what are hundreds of millions of American picking up an looking at today. And that’s why I really think that reading it is, it helps me more than, now, because I don’t read all the newspapers – I don’t see, for example, the L.A. Times every day, or the San Francisco Chronicle, or the Arizona Republic when I’m away. So we go then, of course, online, and look at them.’ << But maybe the Obama campaign doesn't read the New York Times....
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << Q: But do you go on line for yourself? Mr. McCain: They go on for me. I am learning to get online myself, and I will have that down fairly soon, getting on myself. >> To me, this is the cruxt of the entire issue. McCain is living in an outdated world -- where people serve up information and services to him. The rest of the world, and government for that matter, no longer operate this way. For example, in the military there used to be entire staffs of people employed to maintain pay, administrative, and other records for uniformed servicemen. Today, soldiers, sailors, and airmen are told to "go online" and do all these things for themselves. The software employed for these functions is grossly out of date, not intuitive, and inaccessible if you are deployed across the globe without access to the internet. The corporate world has gone much the same way with "do it yourself" online applications for a host of items that used to be accomplished by informed staffs. McCain doesn't understand a "do it yourself" world because he doesn't live in one. He's never had to navigate a worthless webform to try and accomplish basic tasks for his job or personal life. He doesn't understand the 21st century economy that essentially requires these things in the workforce in order to meet corporate productivity objectives. Its not a matter of preferring to read something in print vs. electronic -- it's a matter of understanding how the world works in the year 2008. McCain has no clue.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy Steven Hawking uses a computer and far more disabled than McCain. In fact, there are literally millions of people suffering with disabilities who are computer users. Does McCain feel like he gets a pass on living in the 21st century because of a disability? In corporate and governemnt workplaces across the country, employees and civil servants are being confronted daily with "do it yourself" computer applications that have replaced a lot of work that used to be accomplished by dedicated staffs. McCain is completely out of touch with how the world works these days. Wouldn't it be nice if you had a staff of people to print out websites and e-mails for you to read everyday. Do they offer that in your workplace?
Originally Posted By woody >>it's a matter of understanding how the world works in the year 2008<< I'm sure Obama would still come up with this ad after doing the on-line research. Not really. I find it hard that Obama would have made this simple oversight without being careless about McCain's disability and the fact that McCain is quite savvy with new technology. In fact, in McCain's 2000 campaign, he used the web extensively.
Originally Posted By RockyMtnMinnie >>>Maybe it's not just physical? There are amazing technologies that allow virtually anyone with any disability to use a computer. McCain's physical problems don't prevent him from using modern technology.<<< I have a client who's daughter is a quadraplegic and the daughter has the capability of emailing me. Sorry, not buying that excuse.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << In fact, in McCain's 2000 campaign, he used the web extensively. >> I wonder if McCain himself is even remotely aware?
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << the fact that McCain is quite savvy with new technology >> McCain himself has said on numerous occasions for the record that he is not. Of course, that was all when he was on the "Straight Talk Express." Now, he's all about lies and spin. Shameful.
Originally Posted By woody >>I have a client who's daughter is a quadraplegic and the daughter has the capability of emailing me. Sorry, not buying that excuse.<< How many emails have Clinton sent? ----- <a href="http://gadgetopia.com/post/1988" target="_blank">http://gadgetopia.com/post/1988</a> Clinton’s gift to Internet age: only 2 e-mails: You’d think he’d be more prolific, given that his vice-president invented the Internet and all. The archives of the Bill Clinton presidential library will contain 39,999,998 e-mails by the former president’s staff and two by the man himself. “The only two he sent,” Skip Rutherford, president of the Clinton Presidential Foundation, which is raising money for the library, said on Monday. ------- Wouldn't the job of an executive be other things?
Originally Posted By RockyMtnMinnie If McCain does not like emailing or technology, than just be honest and say that. I would respect that more. I honestly don't think that is a big deal. Don't pull the stupid spin. But don't act shocked after all the mud their campaign has slung, if a little starts getting slung back.
Originally Posted By woody McCain did say that. Look it up. His job takes too much time. Often he dictates to his wife Cindy who types up the messages and sends them. Of course, he has his staff as well. I know people who barely respond with emails. A poorly written email is just as worthless as no email. Remember, this is an attack ad. McCain doesn't have to respond, but he could, but it is probably a good strategy to let Obama get burned from his own ad "I approved it". I'm pointing it out. I'm sure McCain is realizing the latest mistake from the Obama campaign.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << McCain did say that. Look it up. >> Whoa there! So, in your original post you claim McCain doesn't use e-mail because of a disability. Now, you acknowledge that he just doesn't like e-mail or technology. Which story is it gonna be? McCain is out of touch with the real world. Face facts. He has the same economic policies as Herbert Hoover -- scary when we have some economic analysts predicting a depression in the U.S. already. He is out of touch with working class Americans, out of touch with shifts in technology. Now is not the time for us to time travel back to the 70s just so we can be relevant to McCain's world view.
