Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/01/us/illinois-police-officer-shot/">http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/01/...er-shot/</a> <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://news.yahoo.com/houston-police-officer-killed-because-uniform-county-sheriff-100431532.html">http://news.yahoo.com/houston-...532.html</a> And there will be more one the way. This is what movements like black lives matter brings about. The killing of police officers and other innocent people They protested the death of a thug and said nothing about the 9 year old girl in St Louis who was killed in her bedroom. I guess only thing lives matter. Black lives matter and anyone who supports them have blood on their hands, Sickening,
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Oh, for God's sake. Black Lives Matter is a movement calling for less violence from the police. It in no way calls for violence ON the police. Don't buy into the false dichotomy. You're smarter than that. The Illinois case, by the way, involved an officer being shot while pursuing armed suspects - a danger faced by officers forever, long before anyone ever heard of BLM (at least in this country, where it's so easy to be armed). Of the three suspects, one is black, and two are white. How in the world can you pin that on Black Lives Matter? You can't - not logically. Only emotionally, when you buy into the false narrative that people demanding that the police follow the law themselves is "anti-cop."
Originally Posted By ecdc >>You're smarter than that.<< >Black lives matter and anyone who supports them have blood on their hands< Uh....
Originally Posted By ecdc <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/cop-arrested-after-his-own-body-cam-refuted-his-report-shows-him-pummeling-teen">http://www.alternet.org/news-a...ing-teen</a> <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/news/crime/2015/08/31/third-montgomery-police-officer-arrested-three-weeks/71465018/">http://www.montgomeryadvertise...1465018/</a> <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.cbsnews.com/news/richard-combs-white-police-chief-south-carolina-plea-deal-shooting-narmed-black-man/">http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ri...ack-man/</a> <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2015/08/08/black-and-unarmed/">http://www.washingtonpost.com/...unarmed/</a> <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://gawker.com/phoenix-police-release-name-of-officer-who-shot-unarmed-1669141771">http://gawker.com/phoenix-poli...69141771</a> And there will be more on the way. This is what movements like all lives matter brings about. The killings of unarmed black men and beatings of innocent people. They protested the death of police officers and were racists who used words like "thug" but said nothing when cops kept killing black men. Cops and anyone who supports them have blood on their hands. Sickening.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Black Lives Matter is a movement calling for less violence from the police. It in no way calls for violence ON the police. Don't buy into the false dichotomy.<< This, this, this.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 So Black Lives Matter only when killed by preferably white law enforcement. They really don't matter some innocent person is killed by a gang member. Again where was the outcry from this group of the little girl shot in St Louis? That's right she wasn't killed by a cop but a common thug. So she really doesn't matter.
Originally Posted By ecdc Your ignorance of the many ways black Americans have worked to reduce inner city violence and gang violence is at once astounding, not remotely surprising, and not their problem. You sound exactly like people who say Muslims never speak out against terrorism, even though they do it *nonstop*. Your ignorance feeds your outrage which in turn feeds your thinly veiled racism.
Originally Posted By ecdc Put more succinctly.... <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://tinyurl.com/p4s99d6">http://tinyurl.com/p4s99d6</a>
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Another to add to the list: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.11alive.com/story/news/local/2015/08/31/dekalb-co-police-officer-shot/71492826/">http://www.11alive.com/story/n...1492826/</a> <> DEKALB COUNTY, Ga. -- The G.B.I. says the DeKalb County police officer that entered the wrong home for a burglary call was accidentally shot by another officer, not by the homeowner. The incident happened on Boulderwoods Drive around 7:35 Monday night. Three officers arrived at the residence and attempted to contact any occupants inside. When no contact was made, the officers made their way around to the rear of the home and gained entry to the residence through a screened porch. The G.B.I. said police went through a "reportedly unlocked door". Upon entry, the officers encountered a dog. Two officers fired their weapons striking and killing the animal. A male in the home, later determined to be the homeowner, was also shot by the responding officers. One of the police officers, identified as Travis Jones, was shot in the hip. The G.B.I. says their early investigation indicates Jones was likely shot accidentally by one of the other officers at the scene. <> If you're going to enter someone's house unannounced and draw your weapons and start shooting at anything that moves... THEN YOU MUST BE GAWDDAMNED CERTAIN YOU HAVE ENTERED THE CORRECT HOUSE!!! Un-effn-believable.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/02/1417623/-To-be-clear-the-number-of-police-officers-shot-killed-is-down-this-year-and-1-2-killed-are-Black">http://www.dailykos.com/story/...re-Black</a> <> In the United States, the perception of truth often means more than truth itself. While the conservative media lies to blame the Black Lives Matter movement for the tragic shooting deaths of police officers, the mainstream media is rushing to cover what appears to be a dramatic increase in gun violence against police officers. Except, this isn't true. Our country is on pace to have fewer officers shot and killed while on duty this year than last year (and almost any year on record for that matter). Often, people who are sympathetic to police will quote that 83 police have died in the line of duty in 2015. And that is true, but what they aren't telling you is that 13 of those officers had heart attacks or that 19 died in car accidents or that three died because of 9/11-related illnesses. A total of 26 police officers have been shot and killed in the line of duty this year. Each of those is tragic and a reflection of the violence in our country. This, though, is not some race-based dramatic uptick in police shooting deaths. Forty-seven officers were shot and killed in 2014 and we are on pace to have fewer than that this year. Comparatively, 662 people have been shot and killed by police in America as of September 1 and a total of 792 people have been killed by police altogether this year. Not only that, but as the media attempts to blame black activists for these deaths, the truth they aren't telling you is that half of all police who've been shot and killed this year were actually African Americans. That, though, is inconvenient for their narrative. We should be able to have the emotional maturity and intellectual honesty to discuss these issues without misstating or skewing the facts (or outright lying about them). It only makes matters worse. Not only that, but far more police are dying by suicide than they are at the hands of others. Police officers are many times more likely to commit suicide than to be killed by a criminal; nine NYC policemen attempted to take their own lives in 2012, alone. Eight succeeded. In 2013, eight NYPD officers attempted suicide, while six succeeded. If police want to protect themselves, a wise move might be to invest in psychiatric counseling, rather than increased firepower. Again, though, we don't hear these stories because they don't give the conservative media a chance to blame activists and leaders for anything. <> Links to other sites for the stats are embedded in the original article.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I agree there are plenty of Muslims that speak out against terrorism. Unfortunately many are killed for speaking out. And if half the officers shot and killed are black it actually shows that black lives do indeed not matter. Again these criminals and gang members do not care about their lives of others. I don't know how you guys can't get this. THE POLICE ARE NOT THE ENEMY Again I know there members of the black community that speak out. But if they do the are ostracized. Or there called Uncle Tom So I say this the black community wants to stop being harassed by the cops. Each city should pull officers from these areas, reassign them to other neighborhoods(and no not only white). We'll see then how much the cops are needed. Again stop taking the side of the criminals
Originally Posted By Dabob2 < I don't know how you guys can't get this. THE POLICE ARE NOT THE ENEMY> I don't know how you can't get that GOOD cops are not seen as the enemy. Cops (of any color) who take suspects for "rough rides" that end up killing them, or cops that shoot people in the back and then lie about it, not knowing they've been videoed (SC), or cops that shoot 12 year olds within two seconds of arriving (Cleveland)? Yeah, those cops need to be held accountable. <Again I know there members of the black community that speak out. But if they do the are ostracized. Or there called Uncle Tom> Again, you're betraying your ignorance here about what actually goes on in black communities. I'm guessing your source of info is unreliable. <Again stop taking the side of the criminals> Again, stop equating "cops really shouldn't shoot unarmed people with impunity" with "taking the side of criminals."
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Again stop taking the side of the criminals<< Stop inventing things no one said. >>Again I know there members of the black community that speak out. But if they do the are ostracized. Or there called Uncle Tom<< Source? Evidence beyond the stuff you make up inside your head to justify your outrage?
Originally Posted By Wendy Pleakley "You're smarter than that." Nonsense, he's dumb as a rock as demonstrated quite clearly by the things he says here.
Originally Posted By ecdc <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/10/slender-man-stabbing-13-year-old-wisconsin-girls-will-be-tried-as-adults/">http://www.washingtonpost.com/...-adults/</a> I haven't seen DDMAN speak out against this, so I can only reasonably assume he doesn't care about it. I don't know how you don't get this, DDMAN, the girl stabbed here IS NOT THE ENEMY. Why don't you speak out for her? Clearly you don't think all lives matter.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Nonsense, he's dumb as a rock as demonstrated quite clearly by the things he says here.<< At some point it is definitely not unreasonable to conclude that someone so incapable of any nuance--to the point he has to invent what other people believe in his own head to reinforce his black and white thinking--really isn't very bright. Either that or we're just being trolled.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "You're smarter than that." <Nonsense, he's dumb as a rock as demonstrated quite clearly by the things he says here.> But he also demonstrates the opposite at other times. He's even admitted to going into "DAR mode" sometimes just to tweak us, so maybe this is (semi)-trolling, I don't know.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Okay putting aside instances like the boy in Cleveland because the police were wrong. But should I not side with the police in most cases?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 You should side with the police when they behave properly and not when they don't. No one has ever said anything different.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Well that doesn't seem to be case in this country. The media, BLM and the "good reverends" seem to portray the police as the enemy.
