Originally Posted By oc_dean Over time, I have been scratching my head at many things in the Bible. And I'm beginning to dig a little deeper into the story of these 2 cities. Why? Seems plenty of homophobic people over time love to throw up the story to back up some claim "God says" ... in reference to homosexuality. (When in fact, they only ever caught a distorted "blurb" and never bothered to read the full story.) So ... Three things .... The more I read, the more I'm discovering the reasons for these cities going under was for religious infidelity. Not homosexuality. (That is .. should the Bible not be a total work fiction!) And the next thing - the angels turn Lot's wife into a pillar of salt because she looks back??? The Bible continues to look more like a mythological set of stories like Zeus and other the other fictional Greek gods. And Lot having sex with his two daughters .. and that's Okay with "God"? How many times can I keep scratching my head over all this?? So .. if anyone has any good links that further explores this story .. that would be great. I'd love to learn more.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer It's all metaphor or allegory. I think humans used to be much better at understanding metaphor and allegory when our entertainment came from story tellers instead of marketers.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>That is .. should the Bible not be a total work fiction!<< The Bible is more of a library than a single book. Many books, many authors, many purposes and points of view. The historical books are certainly no less accurate than any other history book that was written a few thousand years ago. If you're expecting an intelligent, in-depth analysis of the contents of the Bible from a liberal Christian perspective, might I suggest that consulting books on the topic, or finding yourself a knowledgable theologian from a mainstream denomination, would be a better way to go than asking a bunch of non-experts on a Disney discussion board?
Originally Posted By doombuggy "And Lot having sex with his two daughters .. and that's Okay with "God" I have always used this when bible thumpers say gays are "prevers" and "unnatural" Really? your going to quote from a book that says the world was populated not once but twice by inbreeding and incest.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>the world was populated not once but twice by inbreeding and incest<< Well, that would explain a lot.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer "your going to quote from a book that says the world was populated not once but twice by inbreeding and incest." Isn't that how the Appalachians were populated?
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Well were Lot's daughters hot? If we ever get Michael Bay's version of this story you know he'll cast two Victoria's Secret models , in addition to some quick cuts, a loud soundtrack and ACTORS YELLING THEIR DIALOGUE OVER THE LOUD SOUNDTRACK!!!!
Originally Posted By Longhorn12 For those who don't mind profanity... <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bar3GOzDNzg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...3GOzDNzg</a>
Originally Posted By doombuggy "Isn't that how the Appalachians were populated?" AH so now we know where Eden was.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer According to the Mormons, the Garden of Eden is in Independence, Missouri. Seriously.
Originally Posted By ecdc Well it is lovely there. Seriously, it's all part of the Americanness of Mormonism. The faith makes far, far more sense when understood as a frontier religion that animated people's lives because their world was full of God's history. It's not a coincidence that the entire faith is founded on the notion of God's people living in the Americas and even being visited by Jesus.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "According to the Mormons, the Garden of Eden is in Independence, Missouri. Seriously." If that's true, then they're even more delusional than I thought.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Look it up. Straight out of the prophet's mouth. In an amazing coincidence, after the Mormons were evicted from Independence, they were led by Smith to northwest Missouri to a valley where Adam and Eve lived after they were evicted from Eden. So, you know, the Mormons were going through exactly what Adam and Eve went through. And Smith was able to point to the very rock that Adam used as an altar. Adam and Eve raised Abel and Cain about 80 miles from where Walt Disney grew up. True story.
Originally Posted By ecdc I'm going to defend the church a bit on this—though they'll probably see it as a back-handed compliment. There's plenty in traditional Christianity that's delusional. I mean, we're going to give Mormons a hard time for believing the Garden of Eden is in Missouri but be a-ok with other Christians believing in a Garden of Eden at all? When Joseph Smith claimed the Garden was in Missouri, it was the far west, wild frontier country. Again, it animated the lives of his followers by making their world come alive. A distinctly American faith.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I'm much more willing to believe the Garden of Eden was in what is now Iraq or wherever than I am that it was in Missouri. There's crazy talk and then there's CRAZY TALK.
