Originally Posted By ecdc <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-11-10/glenn-becks-anti-semitic-attack-on-george-soros/" target="_blank">http://www.thedailybeast.com/b...e-soros/</a> Wow. It would be awesome if George Soros sued Glenn Beck for every penny he had for defamation.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 Jesus, Glen Beck is truly a disgusting human being. The fact that anyone still watches or listens to this idiot astounds me!
Originally Posted By Donny I watch and learn from Glenn Beck,I am not saying he doesn't make mountain out of mole hills but Glenn Beck is very intelligent.
Originally Posted By queenbee In a statement, Abraham Foxman, the ADL’s national director and a Holocaust survivor himself, expressed outrage over Beck’s charges about Soros’ behavior as a boy in Nazi-occupied Hungary, which Beck made on television on Tuesday and again on the radio Wednesday. “Glenn Beck’s description of George Soros’ actions during the Holocaust is completely inappropriate, offensive and over the top,” said Foxman. “For a political commentator or entertainer to have the audacity to say—inaccurately—that there’s a Jewish boy sending Jews to death camps, as part of a broader assault on Mr. Soros, that’s horrific… To hold a young boy responsible for what was going on around him during the Holocaust as part of a larger effort to denigrate the man is repugnant.” ************** Glenn Beck is a manipulative liar who preys upon the weak minded. If that's what you mena by intelligent then I agree. *********** (Quote from article) "Beck seems to be assuming a colossal level of ignorance on the part of his viewers....." I think this explains why his audience laps this up. He knows his viewers very well.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Glenn Beck is very intelligent.<< The thing is though, he's not intelligent at all. He's no dummy, sure. But he's not a good thinker. The problem is Glenn Beck reads some book like Jonah Goldberg and he's blown away. He's not intelligent, so he doesn't have any context for any of this stuff, and he starts spinning his own theories. That's the problem with tea partiers: they aren't very bright, so everything they learn is news to them, even though the rest of us have known about it for a while because we don't have disdain for higher education, the way these people do. Glenn Beck gets his information from one or two ultra-conservative sources. Donny, it's downright scary that you claim to "learn" from him. Try learning for yourself instead of this clown.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Donny... do you believe everything Beck tells you is factual? Do you believe that Beck is an honest person, and would never intentionally distort the truth for an ulterior motive?
Originally Posted By Mr X Sadly, and it really is pathetic when you think about it, Donny is hardly the first person I've heard claim to *learn* from Glenn Beck. In fact, several old friends have said the same (MOSTLY extremist right wingers, of course...but a few didn't "go extreme" til they started listening to this anti-semite would be god preaching his gospel of lunacy)... People always trot out the whole anti-christ message, but damned if he doesn't fit the figure of the beast quite nicely (except that's all bunk, but still!).
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Donny is hardly the first person I've heard claim to *learn* from Glenn Beck.<< I know half-a-dozen people who went to Washington for the 8/28 rally. I think that's in part because Beck's biggest following is in Utah; he's the perfect marriage of Mormonism and conservatism for these people. Beck frequently uses LDS terms in his broadcasts the mean little to his average listeners, but have great meaning to Mormons. But, I digress yet again. This is why I lament the incuriosity of Americans. I'm fond of saying "people are stupid." The sad thing is, I don't really believe that - it's just a lazy way to express what I really think. If I felt like I was some genius and everyone else was just dumb, I'd call it good and go merrily on my way. But most people aren't truly stupid - incapable of better. One on one, you can have a real conversation with most people and see the gears grind to life for a moment. But overall, they're just incurious and too lazy to think through anything. It makes them ripe for the Glenn Becks of the world.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 your talking about mr beck and thats what he wants,he just saying things to make a buck.it's not a real "news" show .It just a "bazarro" daily show.
Originally Posted By ecdc And here we go again with the "entertainment" or "let's make a buck" aspect. That'd be all well and good if Beck's zealous followers thought so too. But they don't. And neither does Glenn Beck. That's the mistake people frequently make about him: that he's either in it to make money or he's just a preacher of what he truly believes. For Beck, it's a perfect combination of both. Of course he believes what he says, and if he can make a dump truck full of money off of it while exploiting gullible people, why not? And we just heard from a Glenn Beck fan that declared proudly that he "learns" a lot from Beck. I sure don't claim to learn a lot from 30 Rock or Mad Men, two shows that just "entertain" me.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 P T Branum had a really good idea about the great thinking public !
Originally Posted By ecdc What always amuses me is that conservatives just won't denounce Beck. It's so funny how all this stuff is intertwined for them. Even if they aren't a Beck fan, they immediately leap to his defense by calling it entertainment, or at most they'll be dismissive of him. But they won't come out and say, "Glenn Beck is wrong to say that about George Soros" because they'd rather defend anti-semitism than agree with criticism from liberals. The thought process is astounding. You see the same thing with climate change. The overwhelming evidence aside, they can't agree with something that (gasp!) Al Gore once championed! They'd rather fight their phantom enemies on the left than agree with basic facts.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 It's almost like a religion for these people, and if they admit one thing is not true, then they're afraid the whole thing will just fall apart!
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Glenn Beck will always be railing against something, complete with dire biblical prophecy and loonyland connect-the-dots "logic". But aside from devout members of his Kollege of Konservative Knowledge show, he really should be laughed at -- often. I mean, all that's missing from his act is a mortorboard and tassle when he gets going with Mr. Chalkboard. His schtick is pretty simple: Tell dumb people exactly what they want to hear. So he'll forever be railing against Democrats and lauding Republicans (that tow the far right line). Democrat in office? The Republic must be saved from tyranny!!! Republican in office? Subversives outside the gate must be stopped from tearing this great country down!!! It's obvious and laughable what he's up to every day. When attempts are made to question him, he goes into his bloated boy next door "aw shucks, I'm just a rodeo clown" bit. I'm surprised he has the restraint not to say it in baby talk. There's a dark stupidity behind what he does, and it can indeed grow into something worse. But really, he doesn't deserve much more than mocking.
Originally Posted By Donny Can't I listen to Glenn Beck and be an OK person ?I don't believe everything he says
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Can't I listen to Glenn Beck and be an OK person ?I don't believe everything he says<< I already think you're an okay person. I just think you need to seriously re-evaluate where you get your information. I know it's axiomatic these days to say that all info is biased, refer to the "liberal media" and act as if there's no way to know the truth, but it just ain't so.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox I think this needs reframing. "I don't believe everything Glenn Beck says but I learn a lot from him." I would never claim to learn "a lot" from any individual with whom I disagree on a regular basis. If you do not believe everything Beck tells you, then why listen? And if you actually "learn a lot" from Beck, how do you know what you're learning is factual? How can you tell what you accept as factual knowledge is actually true, and what you discard as untrue is actually false? And FWIW... anyone who listens to Beck and states they "learn a lot" from the guy is intellectually lazy in my book. There are better sources for gaining insight into history, with far more credibility. Beck spouts off mostly falsehoods and half-truths. He constantly reframes history to his fundamentalist advantage, to the point of rewriting it. He is NOT a great teacher by any stretch of the imagination. If he was, he wouldn't have dropped out of college like Rush Limbaugh did and never return. He would have gone back and finished the darned diploma, if only for bragging rights. Beck didn't because he's too lazy to do the requisite hard work, like turning on his brain.
Originally Posted By Donny "If you do not believe everything Beck tells you, then why listen?"skinnerbox can you tell me someone you listen too who is 100% correct ?
