Originally Posted By TomSawyer <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html?utm_source=Twitterfeed" target="_blank">http://www.slate.com/articles/...tterfeed</a> 23 children have died since Newtown. Jamarcus Allen, Akron, OH, Age 4 Trinity Ross, Kansas City, Mo, Age 4 Travin Varise, Baton Rouge, LA, Age 2 Maximilian Walters, Boulder City, NV, Age 5 Neveah Benson, Cleveland, OH, Age 6 Jael Griego, South Valley, NM, Age 5 Angelina Griego, South Valley, NM, Age 2 Zephania Griego, South Valley, NM, Age 9 Taylor Cornett, Hazard, KY, Age 12 Alexandra Brown, Henry County, OH, Age 10 Steven Curtis, Breckenridge, MO, Age 12 Jacob Ball, Cambridge, OH, Age 5 WIlliam Parris, Pleasant Valley, AL, Age 12 Kevin Hannah, Tollhouse, CA, Age 10 Jonah Mendoza, Ocala, FL, Age 1 Aaliyah Boyer, Elkton, MD, Age 10 Easton Brueger, Bennettsville, SC, Age 8 James Lee Parker, Wake Forest, NC, Age 12 Sincere Smith, Conway, SC, Age 2 Alfreddie Gipson, Memphis, TN, Age 10 Brennan Nowell, Harrison, TN, Age 2 Aydan Perea, Kansas City, MO, Age 4 Ryder Rozier, Guthrie, OK, Age 3 When do we get to talk about the "well-regulated" part?
Originally Posted By Donny well regulated referred to making sure the military could not rule over the people.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>the right of the "people" to keep and bear arms,shall not be infringed.<< It's about to be, one way or the other, if you gun nuts can't control yourselves.
Originally Posted By utahjosh Are you suggesting that these deaths are due to gun advocates losing control of themselves?
Originally Posted By oc_dean I got an idea! Because of the Second Amendment ... every American should have a gun! There! That will solve everything!
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Are you suggesting that these deaths are due to gun advocates losing control of themselves?<< This one was: It was a “horrific” crime scene that confronted deputies Saturday night: Former Calvary church Pastor Greg Griego; his wife, Sarah; and their three youngest children dead — fatally shot multiple times with a “military-style” assault rifle and other weapons — at their South Valley home. The suspect in custody is the couple’s 15-year-old son, Nehemiah Griego, who neighbors said often wore “nothing but camouflage” and wanted to be in the army. “I’ve never seen a scene quite like this,” Bernalillo County Sheriff Dan Houston said at a news conference Sunday morning. The teen is accused of using several weapons, including a “military style” assault rifle, according to the Bernalillo County Sheriff’s Office, to kill his parents and three youngest siblings.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I noticed that three of the children listed in post #1 had the same last name. They were murdered by a 15 year old sibling, along with their parents. All with guns kept in the family home. And before Wayne LaPierre chimes in, Pastor Griego was a Desert Storm veteran and didn't allow any "violent or dirty" video games or movies and TV programs, according to neighbors.
Originally Posted By Donny <a href="http://www.sunherald.com/2013/01/27/4430779/i-110-traffic-heavy-due-to-fatal.html" target="_blank">http://www.sunherald.com/2013/...tal.html</a>
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan As usual, the only way for Donny to participate is by trying to distract from the topic at hand.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan <a href="http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2013/01/20/abqnewsseeker/breaking-five-dead-in-south-valley-shooting.html" target="_blank">http://www.abqjournal.com/main...ing.html</a>
Originally Posted By Donny <a href="http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/10573067/" target="_blank">http://www.wral.com/news/local...0573067/</a>
Originally Posted By Donny I do think if your children die from getting your gun,then you should be cited with a crime but the same should be true if they get your alcohol as well.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Justification for guns, huh? Won't work Donny! Something has to be done! The amount of guns violence in America is through the roof!
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I do think if your children die from getting your gun,then you should be cited with a crime but the same should be true if they get your alcohol as well.<< Golly, what a novel idea. I wonder why no one has ever made that a law?
Originally Posted By oc_dean <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/14/chart-the-u-s-has-far-more-gun-related-killings-than-any-other-developed-country/" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/...country/</a> America - through the roof! My new country - Australia - ranking second to last where a record begins! And that might be because we don't have loose laws about gun ownership! A lesson America should learn!
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin "The right to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Ever hear of that one? It's in your constitution...maybe you should read the whole thing, Donny.
Originally Posted By oc_dean The 64,000 Dollar Question: Why does America have this illusion, that guns make life safer? <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video?id=7312687" target="_blank">http://abcnews.go.com/2020/vid...=7312687</a>
