Originally Posted By Labuda <a href="http://www.showbizspy.com/article/223733/sarah-palins-reality-show-axed-from-tlc.html" target="_blank">http://www.showbizspy.com/arti...tlc.html</a> So, here's hoping this is accurate AND that TLC never gets desperate enough to fill airtime that they re-run episodes in the future!
Originally Posted By wahooskipper There are a LOT of bad reality shows out there. Are you suggesting this was the worst one...or do you just not like her? I just don't understand the continued fascination. If you don't care about her...ignore her. I think the Jersey Shore people are idiots. They are on magazines and tv...and I ignore it all.
Originally Posted By Labuda Wahoo, I suggest this was one of the worst because it gave her a platform on a station available across the entire country. I find that woman to be vile and a stain on our country, and feel that the sooner this half-term quitter gets off the national stage, the better.
Originally Posted By queenbee How many other reality TV stars were that close to being Vice President? I don't understand how you can see Palin the same as Jersey Shore stars. Jersey Shore stars, Kate Plus 8 people, the Duggers, as far as I know have never run for public office. I find it easy to ignore them.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>I don't understand how you can see Palin the same as Jersey Shore stars. Jersey Shore stars, Kate Plus 8 people, the Duggers<<< What do these people have in common? They are all stupid and a waste of space.
Originally Posted By mawnck Ummmm ... it's possible that the show is ending because she's running for President, and they can't run "campaign ads" for a declared candidate. And this is a good thing?
Originally Posted By mele It's not very easy to just *ignore* Palin. I find her to be extremely dangerous; why would I just ignore something dangerous?
Originally Posted By Labuda mawnck - I believe 100% that Sarah Palin is unelectable on a national scale.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I believe 100% that Sarah Palin is unelectable on a national scale.<< So do I, as of 7:21 AM PST on January 10th, 2011. But I'm concerned about November 2012.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb >>>What do these people have in common? They are all stupid and a waste of space.<<< I'm not crazy about these people myself, but WOW! What an elitist and arrogant thing to say. For someone who claims to have a social conscious to say that about another human being, any human being, is completely hypocritical.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Sure it is easy to ignore her. I see a tv show is advertised about her...I don't watch it. I see she has a book out or is the focus of a magazine article...I don't read it. I see she is a contributor to Fox News...I watch CNN. It is simple to ignore her. She has, like it or not, millions of fans, followers or whatever. They aren't all out killing people. I've been saying for some time that the rhetoric on both sides of the aisle needs to be turned down. People have linked to Democratic websites that used targets (more like archery targets) just as Palin's site used targets. I don't like any of it. But, to suggest that this mentally unstable person's actions should be blamed on Palin is preposterous. Where is the outrage for violent video games and television? Call of Duty is one of the most popular video games in the country right now. I don't hear any big outrage over that. I'm as upset about this situation as anyone. I have friends who are public figures here in Florida and I feel for how they must be feeling right now. I've cried several times about this incident as I've heard stories of the young girl, the elderly man who threw himself on his wife, the bystanders who tried to help. But when we start trying to silence people because of their words...like them or not...I think you are heading down a very slippery slope.
Originally Posted By mele <<Where is the outrage for violent video games and television? Call of Duty is one of the most popular video games in the country right now. I don't hear any big outrage over that.>> Perhaps you've accidentally ignored the people who were doing this very thing. And you should know that those people were also told to just "ignore" the tv shows, movies, video games that offend them.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>It is simple to ignore her.<< It's not, wahoo. I don't know a thing about Jersey Shore, the Kardashians, Lindsey Lohan, etc. Sure, I see the occasional headline or hear Conan's jokes about them and I can guess to what's going on, but I don't read the stories. But Jersey Shore's twitter feed and Facebook page aren't on the national news every night. Sarah Palin is not just a reality star with fans, she's a huge part of one of the two largest political parties in the nation. She speaks at conservative political events across the nation and she has a powerful Political Action Committee. Comparing Sarah Palin to the Situation or any other pop culture icon du jour is intellectually lazy.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Call of Duty is one of the most popular video games in the country right now. I don't hear any big outrage over that.<< Because there hasn't been, and there never has been, a link between video games and actual violence. Study after study shows that kids do quite well at distinguishing fantasy from reality. But in the case of violent political rhetoric, that's not fantasy. 2nd Amendment solutions is not a metaphor. It's infusing violence into the very real world of already charged issues in politics.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>What an elitist and arrogant thing to say.<<< Yep, well I suppose maybe I should just grow into that. won;t be the first time someone has called me that, won't be the last. Same can be levied about many others too. Simon Cowell, most politicians, business leaders. The point?
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it got cancelled because it was boring. I tried watching a couple episodes and it just was not that interesting.
Originally Posted By ecdc I'm with Dave. Some of us are just fed up with suffering fools gladly. I'm tired of acting like fairness is more important than truth or facts. I'm sick of pretending that ignorant people too lazy to learn and too dim to exercise critical thinking are a legitimate part of the process. We need grown ups to have real conversations about real issues to solve real problems. Phantom BS issues like "socialism" or a "war on Christmas" don't help anyone. Healthcare will become unaffordable for most Americans in the next decade if we didn't do anything. What's the best way forward - to have a conversation and decide on solutions and compromise, or to scream and yell about freedom, socialism, and death panels? These people are a cancer on our culture; they aren't just some harmless dimwits expressing a harmless opinion.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>>>>What do these people have in common? They are all stupid and a waste of space.<<< I'm not crazy about these people myself, but WOW! What an elitist and arrogant thing to say. For someone who claims to have a social conscious to say that about another human being, any human being, is completely hypocritical. <<< Ok, I should perhaps have phrased it in a different way. Let's try this shall we? The protagonists listed in these reality TV shows demonstrate similar characteristics and impacts on their audiences. In many of the subjects discussed in this discourse, the evidence suggests that there is a negligble amount of positive untility in their behaviours which seem to cement stereotypes ragarding in the case of the Kardashians = beauty and wealth means you can do what you would like and require very little real world social or practical skills and can lead impressionable young people to believe that "being fabulous" is a career choice without having any evidence based impirical skills. Other examples exibiting similar characteristics may include Paris Hilton and Lionel Ritchie's daughter. In the UK, examples may also include the children of Bob Geldolf. subject B, the Jersey Shore. The protagonists in this programme seem to demonstrate that pumping iron, showing cleavage, shouting at one another, and calling yourself names such as "The Situation" may give alcoholic and sexual gratification, as well as gaining income and celebrity status for basically leading morally dubious lives. The lesson here is a concern that our young people may wish to purchase clothes and toys that depict this behviour. In the UK, we may wish to cite chavs as a similar set of characteristics. Exhibit c is perhaps one of the most dangerous of all. Politicians that have repeatedly shown their intellectual ability to be wanting (also see the subject George W Bush for examples where the greatest attrocities in American culture can be found, also Ronald Reagan), dishonesty in business and hypocritical behavour in the seeking of medical attention in Canada while later stating that social medicine is unethical; talking of the values of family and religion, while raising a child that acts in a very different manner, etc. Then give her a TV programme and a channel for continuing to spout forth verbal effluence of a malodeous kind devoid of evidence. What do all three of these subjects have in common? They have an audience that also seem to have a limited capacity for thinking critically and either enjoy observing, or worse, wish to emulate these heros of reality TV. The net result is therefore not producing a measurable set of benefits, or perhaps otherwise known as a waste or drain. There is a space for them. Therefore there is evidence of a waste of space. As for stupidity, perhaps my choice of terminology was rather pedestrian and jocular. Perhaps a limited capacity for debate and intellectual contribution to society. Therefore I have shared my rationale of concern for social justice in the wish that these entities are not granted a channel. And therefore social welfare is at the core of my concern. Is that better? ;-) signed an elitist, arrogant, hypocrit, And DAMN proud of it. Better to make an impact than none at all. And it is better to think for myself then to do what the masses want. I am American, and I am a free man.
