Originally Posted By Mr X <a href="http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/07/15/faith-based-group-fires-back-at-glenn-beck" target="_blank">http://swampland.blogs.time.co...enn-beck</a> Apparently they're a little ticked off at being told the bible doesn't say anything about taking care of the sick and the poor.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 That is pretty cool...I like the idea of their "driven by faith, not by fear" campaign against some of the extreme Tea Partiers too. The only way to combat the crap that Glenn Beck types spew is to loudly call it out for being crap. Hopefully this will make some people stop and think and finally realize what Glenn Beck is.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Why are we still talking about Glenn Beck? I thought he passed away. Or was that wishful thinking?
Originally Posted By fkurucz Its not just Glen Beck. The whole Fundy/Evangelical and especially the "Prosperity Bible" movement is rife with contempt for the poor. What is especially hilarous about Glen Beck is that he has Fundies and Evangs eating out of his hand, even though he is a Mormon.
Originally Posted By utahjosh (Apparently they're a little ticked off at being told the bible doesn't say anything about taking care of the sick and the poor.) How disingenuous. It's the HOW to help the poor that is argued, not the need to care for them.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 "How disingenuous. It's the HOW to help the poor that is argued, not the need to care for them. " Ummm...then you haven't listened to Glenn Beck lately. Glenn Beck has been saying some pretty outrageous things that a lot of faith based organizations, even conservative Christian ones, have been pretty shocked about. He has basically been saying that Jesus did not really preach helping the poor and things like that. I know there is a difference in liberal and conservative circles about the best way to help people but that is not what the group in the article is protesting...they are protesting the Beckster comparing people helping the poor to Nazis and things like that.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>How disingenuous. It's the HOW to help the poor that is argued, not the need to care for them.<< Josh, next time you're in Salt Lake or Provo, go to Sam Wellers or BYU Bookstore, pick up the latest copy of Sunstone, and read Bob Rees' article on Glenn Beck. It's imminently fair (Rees is an active member in California) but shows just how wrong-headed and dangerous (and un-Mormon) Beck really is.
Originally Posted By utahjosh If Beck has said Jesus does not want us to help the poor, he indeed is a "crazy person." I am not a regular listener and I've only seen a handful of his shows. I had only heard he argued the merits of voluntarily aiding the poor vs. socialism, redistribution of wealth, etc.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>I had only heard he argued the merits of voluntarily aiding the poor vs. socialism, redistribution of wealth, etc.<< Not really. He engaged in a lot of guilt by association, hyperbole, and other logical fallacies. He also demonstrated a terribly deficient knowledge of American history. By Beck's definitions, Dwight D. Eisenhower was a socialist.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Check it out, Josh. He was talking specifically about CHURCHES (i.e. not government, not "socialism" or anything like that) who teach about social justice. He held that social justice was "not in the Bible;" of course, many Christians believe that it is the CENTRAL MESSAGE of Jesus.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "If Beck has said Jesus does not want us to help the poor, he indeed is a "crazy person." I am not a regular listener and I've only seen a handful of his shows." Yet you've read the stuff that's been said about him here and yet you still weren't sure that the man has a screw loose?
Originally Posted By Mr X Not only "weren't sure", but actually vehemently defended the guy numerous times. I don't suppose it's because he's a fellow Mormon, is it Josh? Nah, can't be THAT!
Originally Posted By fkurucz I'm still undecided if Glen Beck is really nuts or is simply pandering to those who are nuts (for money of course). Either way, the fact that he's considered a legitimate pundit for the GOP is what finally drove me away.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>I'm still undecided if Glen Beck is really nuts or is simply pandering to those who are nuts (for money of course).<< The article I referred Josh to made a great point: Does Glenn Beck really believe what he says? Either answer is deeply disturbing.
Originally Posted By Labuda Well, based on firsthand reporting from a friend of mine from middle school & high school who is now a professional photo and spent a day with him doing a pictorial for Time: Beck is just pandering to the insane.
Originally Posted By Oldschool Disney I heard Glen Beck once on the radio and wondered if some insane person wandered into a studio.
