Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Especially with those who are fighting it. NOT. Someone tell us again how the military is meeting its enlistment quotas. This is almost like being drafted. <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/22/marines.ap/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/ 22/marines.ap/index.html</a>
Originally Posted By vbdad55 SPP-- point me to the web site for a popular war please . Vietnam was 60% + negative for almost 3 years from August 1968 on.... Truman's popularoty plummeted so low that he had to 'fire' a war hero in MacArhtur after the populace figuredout McCarthy was full of bull on the commie threat After being high right after Paerl Harbor. FDR's popularity plummeted also..as people got sick of the war. and rationing and for all the cute little ditties written about the likes of Rosie the Riverter, it was not poplular. Now Hitler was very popular in polls in Germany in 1939 and 1940.... so what the hell is your point about a war not being popular -- you are risking becoming the antithesis of the person you most dislike on LP... there are and should be no popular wars... even our home grown war - the Civil War was very unpopular and make Lincoln hated...
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<there are and should be no popular wars...>> Actually, I thought Reagan's war with Granada was a pretty cool little war.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "so what the hell is your point about a war not being popular -- you are risking becoming the antithesis of the person you most dislike on LP..." Well vbdad, I must have not deleted the personal insult directed at you from the post you read. By popular, I'm talking about with the soldiers. We keep hearing how much the troops believe in what we're doing in Iraq, but they're obviously not re-upping enough nor recruiting enough to keep us properly manned, so something must be amiss with the idea the war is popular with the troops. I didn't realize that needed explaining. Truman fired McArthur because he disobeyed an order and was insubordinate. MacArthur wanted war with China. Truman didn't, and when MacArthur threatened China anyway, Truman relieved him of his command.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I liked "low Rider" and "all day" by WAR also... that would be an exception
Originally Posted By YourPalEd I think it's sad because our soldiers are being forced to die for lies started and insisted upon by the known traitor, george bush. Lies about iraq, and nonsense about bringing them freedom, and other excuses for bush murdering the iraqi people, and our soldiers.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Well vbdad, I must have not deleted the personal insult directed at you from the post you read.< I guess I am just tired of reading all the baiting going on here the last few weeks and the title of this thread set me off....there are those I expect it from and those I don't. You are one I do not expect it from. I look at that title and immediately know the firebomb coming back from the right on this...so I guess I should not be policing or trying to, but I keephoping we can get back to facts here... maybe I just need a break from W/E again..too many trolls ..every discussion breaks down into babbling liar this, traitor that bull...really not much interest in that. I apologize if you took it personally, it was meant more general, but I can see how you would read it the way it is typed also SPP.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 just read post 7 -- a perfect synopsis of the 2nd grade mentality that has taken over... so I may go back to just monitoring for a while before it carries over into the other threads I post on... for those trying to carry on serious discussions, I am pulling for you
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Well, we're cool, vb. If the Admins don't reign some people in, especially Ed, then this place has finally run its course. It's curious that the Admins aren't doing anything. I've even expected to be Admined, only to have it still up.
Originally Posted By planodisney Ed, who made you god, and the posessor of ALL truth? None of us is right about everything, and the sooner you come to grips with your ever so obvious short-comings, the better a person you will be. Typically, the further we go out on a limb with our assertions and accusations, the more often we are wrong. Well, ed, you are generally about 40 feet out on a Sequoia branch about 150 feet in the air. Accept that you dont know everything, and maybe it will help you with your condescending, grumpy attitude.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd No, i never go out on a limb. I'm quite safe. I only tell the truth. But you already know that. Censor, block, deny the only tools a republican has to think with. Sorry. The known traitor, george bush, has broken constitutional law from the beginning. Everyone knows it. It's just so sickening seeing selfish hateful people ignoring it. They are criminals, and they will pay, it's as simple as that. I have no hangup. When some unamerican traitor, comes along and defends the lies these criminals have fostered on america, i will always speak up. Republicans weaken america's defenses on every level. Everyone knows this. They are trying to continue to censor, block, and deny time sensitive information to protect themselves from going to jail, and not to defend americans. The fact that traitors spread the lies that america hasn't been attacked, when the many terrorist attacks have been covered up by the republicans claiming national defense, who then turn around and lie, and say there haven't been attacks under their criminal siege of the white house is enough to justify my actions. The criminals in the white house must be arrested immediately, before they weaken america to the point of no return. The war is not only unpopular, all republicans are unpopulare, they are weak, and lower our defenses, so that they can make money cleaning up the mess after the attacks.
Originally Posted By JohnS1 I think the known idiot, Ed, has it figured out. Bush started the Iraq war so he could make money after it's over by cleaning everything up. Brilliant, Ed, just brilliant.
Originally Posted By EdisYoda DISCLAIMER: EdisYoda is in no way currently or in the past affiliated, associated, or in cahoots with YourPalEd. EdisYoda does not endorse nor condone the opinions or actions of YourPalEd.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Sorry vbdad, but you know I have to respond here. STPH, what is the point of this thread? You and others on here seem to think the war in Iraq is some popularity contest and that if the polls get negative we are done with the war. Now you are saying that the militray members themselves are not " happy " so it's more evidence that we have to lose. What nonsense. What ignorance. How shallow. The terrorsts can only win if we leave Iraq, which is the exact thing people like you are also pushing for. Have you or your 80% of attorneys who celebrate the end of the NSA program ever bothered to think what happens to all of us if we lose to the Islamic radicals? Cut, run, surrender, take a poll. Nice plan to get us all killed. Learn who the enemy is Ed.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd The terrorists are a hundred to 1 what they were before bush, not only in numbers, but they are fanatical now, thanks to the known traitor, george bush. The iraqis have asked us to leave, they have pleaded with us to leave their country, now. The ignorant anti-american republican philosophy is very complex, bush says, "Stay the course." His political world view is a bumper slogan, hahahaha. "Stay the course," hee hee what a maroon. The war in iraq is justified by a bumper sticker. hahahaheeeheehehe. Republicans truely are all selfdestructive idiots. I feel sorry for them actually. I guess they do these terrible mistakes, cause they just want to be able to say they did it their way, without anyone telling them, how or what to do. George bush too, but i'm not sure. He is so sneaky looking and now, he is creepy looking. Funny how they shuffled together a newsroom, cause the other wasn't ready yet.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<The war is not only unpopular, all republicans are unpopulare, they are weak, and lower our defenses, so that they can make money cleaning up the mess after the attacks.>> Is a statement like this really that different from what Beau routinely says about liberals?? It is funny how people react when the shoe is on the other foot. Personally, as I said before I don't think Ed is serious... he is entertainment.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<The iraqis have asked us to leave, they have pleaded with us to leave their country, now.>> Ed, for now on you are simply going to be called idiot. The only people asking us to leave Iraq are the terrorists who don't want the people to have a democracy. The left is helping this effort with threads like this one. The rest of the Iraqis have asked us to stay, and that includes the Sunnis, unil the country is secure.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Personally, as I said before I don't think Ed is serious... he is entertainment.>> Interesting how the people who are always offended give Ed a pass for just being some bong smoker who is just having fun. Typical of the left.