Originally Posted By X-san I just found this funny, and a little telling...best line "except for our lord, who came back as bread". lol. Homer "Apu, what do you think happens after you die?" Homer "I mean, do you think my Mother's out there somewhere? Do you think she knows I feel bad about things I said?" Apu "Well, perhaps she's around us now. She may already have been reincarnated as that newborn baby, or that tiny mouse in the nacho cheese" Ned "Oh, for cryin out loud! People aren't MICE!" Apu "Woah, what a surprise! Joe Jesus Junior's gonna set us all straight." Ned "Look Homer, people don't come back as ANYTHING, except for our lord who came back as bread. That's it!" Homer "that's it." *sigh* (Homer leaves) Apu "That's the thing with your religion, it's a bummer." Ned "Even the sing-a-longs?" Apu "No, the sing-a-longs are okay." *shrugs*
Originally Posted By DyGDisney I don't get the line "except for our lord who came back as bread". What does that mean??
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Oh wait, I think I may get it now. It's refering to communion, especially in the Catholic church which thinks the communion wafer is actually the body of Christ.
Originally Posted By X-san Yup. What I also found interesting was that the Hindu used words such as "perhaps" and "may"...very cool, whereas Ned Flanders the Christian exclaimed unequivocally that *he* knew the answer without a doubt. That, to me, is the biggest fault for some of these religions (Christians often come up here, and I've got firsthand experience with the Catholic attitude on the issue, but I'm sure there are others). We're right and you are wrong (MrkThompson or whatever his name is often comes along to refresh our memory as to what these extremists are like).
Originally Posted By Elderp ^ If your basing your life philosophies on a sitcom cartoon you need to readjust your focus.
Originally Posted By X-san And before we get too off topic, I'll just say that THIS particular quote from a sitcom says a lot more to me about the nature of religion and the afterlife and the contrasting viewpoints of people than any theories about Adam and Eve being from Missouri, or Native Americans being originally from Israel and being punished by god with the curse of a red face. Sorry, but Mormon life philosophies are certainly nonsensical enough that it seems strange to hear criticism about other ones, cartoons or not.
Originally Posted By Elderp I am not saying that religions are above criticism, but I am saying that I am not about to follow a cartoon as a way of life. Now to railroad your thread... I will say that as far as nonsensical goes I would rather follow a belief system than have no grounding other than myself. Sounds very egotistical to me.
Originally Posted By jdub >> I would rather follow a belief system than have no grounding other than myself. Sounds very egotistical to me.<< No, it's not. ;^)
Originally Posted By DVC_dad I'm way to lazy to even ponder ... X do you have something against people who are not gays or atheists? I'm trying to figure it out. ;p
Originally Posted By X-san Not really. Actually, I dig Hindu's quite a bit (as I mentioned in this very thread). I do hate bigots and most Christian religions though (heck, you could even call that a twofer since they go completely hand in hand in many ways).
Originally Posted By X-san ***I will say that as far as nonsensical goes I would rather follow a belief system than have no grounding other than myself.*** So, you are saying that following *any* belief system is better than "nothing"? By that logic, being a follower of The Peoples Temple, The Branch Davidians, Satanism, or even your favorite "Rogue Mormons" is preferable to not believing in anything. Brilliant. I don't see choosing not to follow someone else's particular belief system as egotistical at all. In fact, with so many differing beliefs out there to chose from, it's rather egotistical to pick just one and claim it's "the right one", don't you think?
Originally Posted By SuperDry ^^^ I've always found the notion you refer to to be a bit confusing. There are many people of faith that are comfortable with other people of a different faith, but not those of no faith. This is true even if the person's faith is quite strident in teaching that their way is the only way and that all others are going to Hell (which is the case with many Christian denominations, even when referring to other Christians). Why is it that people that believe such things are comfortable with others that are going to Hell for a different religious belief, but not with people that are going to Hell for having no belief?
Originally Posted By DyGDisney <<This is true even if the person's faith is quite strident in teaching that their way is the only way and that all others are going to Hell (which is the case with many Christian denominations, even when referring to other Christians).>> What are the "many" Christian faiths that believe this? I can only think of 2.
