Originally Posted By ecdc <a href="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=232243&title=osama-bin-laden-needs-to-attack" target="_blank">http://www.thedailyshow.com/vi...o-attack</a> Glenn Beck, crazy person, had Michael Scheurer on his show last night, former CIA head of the bin Laden unit. Scheurer said that the only "hope for this country" is if bin Laden carries out another terrorist attack to get Americans to wake up and realize how much danger we're apparently in. Beck, being the great patriot he is, immediately turned to Scheurer and told him that it was unacceptable on his show to advocate the slaughter of Americans. Oh wait, that didn't happen. Beck concurred.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy They play Glenn Beck on the overhead monitors at my gym while I'm running on the treadmill. He's sickening to watch even with the sound turned off.
Originally Posted By utahjosh Scheurer is way off base here sayign that. Glen Beck did not say the same thing - he didn't concur, either. I wish he would have given a rebuttal, but the break happened right after Scheurer said it, and I don't know what was said after the break, or if the show was over.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I think Glenn Beck, Crazy Person should be on his business cards. I think I am understanding why Michael Scheurer is the *former* CIA head of the bin laden unit.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I wish he would have given a rebuttal<< But that's the thing -- people like Glenn beck, as much as they weep and declare their love of country, think this country needs to be taught a lesson. In their view, it's for our own good, because we voted for a godless socialist and must be punished. Any thinking person (disqualifying 89% of Fox News hosts) would have gone off at Scheurer for what he said. It was a slow, easy, knock-it-out-of-the-park "Have you no shame, sir?" moment. Unless you're Glenn Beck, that is.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << Glen Beck did not say the same thing - he didn't concur, either. >> The split screen I saw showed Beck nodding his head in the affirmative the entire time Scheurer was spouting off his mouth. Then he followed up with a statement that offered a corrollary to the guest's statements. In order to have a corrollary, you essentially have to agree with the primary statement.
Originally Posted By DAR Maybe I'm mistaken but everytime I see Beck it seems like he's in on the joke.
Originally Posted By DAR Here's an interesting op-ed piece about Beck from Time last week: <a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1903967,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.time.com/time/natio...,00.html</a> Also read the Q&A link in there and read Beck's response about Obama. It's pretty much dead on.
Originally Posted By ecdc Thanks for the link, DAR. I think that answer is a great one as well. Unfortunately, that Glenn Beck is not the Glenn Beck that shows up on his TV show every night. That Glenn Beck has to pander to his base (an accurate name if there ever was one) with stuff like last night. Or asking the Muslim congressman to prove to him that he wasn't a terrorist. Unfortunately, the Glenn Beck that gave that answer doesn't get big ratings.
Originally Posted By alexbook Some of the stuff you hear from Beck and others (Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage both come to mind) make you wonder how much they believe what they say on the air and how much is acting. It's as though they're playing a character who's as outrageous as possible.
Originally Posted By utahjosh < think this country needs to be taught a lesson. In their view, it's for our own good, because we voted for a godless socialist and must be punished.> I do not believe that Glen Beck wishes a terrorist attack upon America. However, I do think he believes that America's response to an attack is a very positive thing, but not worth the attack.
Originally Posted By utahjosh Why do I visit WE anymore? It's a haven for conservative-hating, god-hating, mormon-hating liberals.
Originally Posted By mele Do you ever stop whining, Josh? Alex, I agree with you in that it seems almost like they're all acting. Fortunately, or maybe unfortunately, it's clear that some people eat it up. (It's pathetic that some people believe it all so much but fortunate that they are vocal so we know who they are.)
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF Well, I guess we DO need to have our token gay-hating Mormon right-wing conservative. Balance, ya know.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I don't think anyone here hates convervatives, God, or Mormons, Josh. There are some who are proudly non-religious, but that doesn't mean they hate the religious. Put the broad brush away, please. Me I am religious; certainly a liberal, but I don't hate conservatives either.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <It's as though they're playing a character who's as outrageous as possible.> Conveniently, it also gives them an "out" and lets them try to have it both ways. Especially when Beck (or his apologists) tries to say "I'm just a comedian." But on air he is sold as a serious pundit who believes what he says. Either man up and take responsibility for what you say, or just be a comedian.
Originally Posted By DAR I will say this about the original point of the post. To wish a terrorist attack on Americans is irresponsible. But when it comes to terrorism we do have avoid become complacent.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I will say this about the original point of the post. To wish a terrorist attack on Americans is irresponsible. But when it comes to terrorism we do have avoid become complacent.>> I don't think we have become complacent. Combating terrorism has nothing to do our buying duck tape and plastic sheets. It has nothing to do going to war in Iraq. It has nothing to do with putting panties on prisoners’ heads in Abu Grahib. It has nothing to do will illegal wiretaps when legal wiretaps would be readily available. It has nothing to do with BS Orange Alerts every other month. Combating terrorism has EVERYTHING to do with the LEGAL work done by the U.S. intelligence agencies that are primarily responsible for keeping us safe since 2001. I have no reason to believe they are no longer doing their work just because Obama is president.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Why do I visit WE anymore? It's a haven for conservative-hating, god-hating, mormon-hating liberals.<< No, it isn't. But apparently it's partly a forum for those with a persecution complex who don't realize that not everyone views the world through the lens of righteous vs. sinful behavior.
Originally Posted By DAR >>Why do I visit WE anymore? It's a haven for conservative-hating, god-hating, mormon-hating liberals.<< <<No, it isn't. But apparently it's partly a forum for those with a persecution complex who don't realize that not everyone views the world through the lens of righteous vs. sinful behavior. >> I don't share Josh's extreme view of WE but given the majority of left-leaning posters on WE if you think even slightly to the right you're going to be in for a battle. And I'll admit there's even been times where I've just agreed with the majority just avoid the headaches.