Originally Posted By FanOfGoofy I was in the park this last weekend and was happy to see the submarine area under development and scheduled to be opened in sprint of 07. But a question did come to mind: It took one year from the beginning of construction until they opened the park...why does it take so long to develop just one attraction?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Well, it always takes longer to remodel an existing space. (That's why they usually just start over on Extreme Makeover:Home Edition) Also, much of the infrastructure had to be replaced, but keeping with the same general layout, which can be difficult to work around at times. The subs themselves were in terrible condition, as they had just been sitting in stagnant water for 6 years. Many of the sets are being redone or replaced, due to major damage to them. There is also new technology being added, which will take a while to work out. And for the park opening in one year, there really wasn't that much there, and none of the attractions were particularly groundbreaking or unique, as opposed to the subs, where only a hand full of them exist in the world. (DL, WDW-extinct, and East Edmonton Mall, anywhere else?)
Originally Posted By cwade There's also the fact that we now have DOSH to deal with and the building inspector's take so long now. In all reality though, it could be done by 2006, but in this case it's a strategic move, as it will probably open (at least soft openings) just as or after the 50th aniversary celebrations come to an end (scheduled to last for 18 months). Also DOSH takes about 6 months to approve a new attraction in and old space, particulary when dealing with roller coasters or other "high risk" attractions (I would assume that's what they call them), which the subs would qualify as, since they are essentially undr water and if one of the windows broke would be flooded to an extent that most would have a very difficult time exiting.
Originally Posted By markcanada Umm, it's actually West Edmonton Mall. And the joke in Canada is that we have more working submarines in a mall then we do in our oceans. Don't get us started on our helicopters, either. . .
Originally Posted By luvtalaughtoo Years ago I remember reading about the unbelievable amount of water lost in the lagoon due to seepage, is that problem being addressed? Is that what they seem to be working on (the lines) that are very evident in the photo's I've seen taken by Darkbeer?
Originally Posted By here we go So they are using the old subs?, and does anyone know what the "storyline" is going to be for this attraction? I have to tell you, I was there when they began removing all of the old fish and sea creatures that I used to love to look for and watch from the side when I was a kid and they had thrown them in little piles all over. . . it made me a little sad, I wish they would have auctioned those off.
Originally Posted By luvtalaughtoo here we go; They did auction them off I saw some photo's some time back showing some of them now in someones back yard by their pool.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Just be thrilled that they are doing something with that space. Any WDW fan will surely not be pleased that DL will revive the subs and in WDW all they get is a cheap playground, the very kind that Walt himself created Disneyland to avoid. The timing of the total destruction of the Sub Lagoon in WDW is also suspect now that finding Nemo is going to be part of DL. I'm sure it now that it was just a way to insure that WDW fans didn't have any leverage. No Lagoon...No Subs.
Originally Posted By SFH After and extensive and expensive multi-year investigation, leading civil engineers concluded that the the water loss in the sub lagoon was due to thirsty ducks. Paul Pressler, who was President of Disneyland at the time, wrote a letter to each duck asking them to cut back consumption or leave. Harsh, yes, but some of the ducks decided to move on, where they have been causing problems for Knott's Timber Mountain Log Ride ever since. Okay, okay... so the real reason is that the water was leaking into the Matterhorn Mountain Retraction Cavern, the big pit under the Matterhorn. This is also where the Matterhorn is known to sink a little when there is a malfuntion in the retraction mechanism that holds up the Matterhorn and can hide it in the event of threat. <a href="http://home.flash.net/~kpellman/Underground.html" target="_blank">http://home.flash.net/~kpellma n/Underground.html</a> SFH
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>This is also where the Matterhorn is known to sink a little...<< And next you're going to give us the old chestnut about the Matterhorn sinking if they ever drain the lagoon, I suppose. What a ridiculous idea. I took the following sequence of photos after the water was drained out. The Matterhorn was barely affected... <a href="http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=4280268&a=31624256&p=71569516" target="_blank">http://albums.photo.epson.com/ j/ViewPhoto?u=4280268&a=31624256&p=71569516</a>
Originally Posted By here we go Hilarious SFH!! Even though I am very bummed that I missed my chance to get the old sub fish, acually I would have gone for the turtles, they would make a great bathroom decoration. . . . imageneer that!! I forgot the website that has all that cool stuff on it, could someone remind me?
Originally Posted By SleepingBeauty82 In response to your question HERE WE GO...I believe it going to have a Finding Nemo storyline.
Originally Posted By Disney16 <<So they are using the old subs?, and does anyone know what the "storyline" is going to be for this attraction? I have to tell you, I was there when they began removing all of the old fish and sea creatures that I used to love to look for and watch from the side when I was a kid and they had thrown them in little piles all over. . . it made me a little sad, I wish they would have auctioned those off.>> Oh no, it's another "Monster's Inc."
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster Underwater digital projection, Characters beloved by millions, boats (pretending to be submarines) on a motion base...I think the wait will be worth it.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros The subs will have a motion base? That's news to me. How are they planning on adding them under the existing subs, and keeping them similar enough to the old ones, to keep the ride ADA compliant. Also, there is that pesky little problem the the front of the sub sees things up to 30 sec before the back of the sub, making the motion needing to be at different times in different part. If they could get it to work, then go them, but I'm a little skeptical.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< After and extensive and expensive multi-year investigation, leading civil engineers concluded that the the water loss in the sub lagoon was due to thirsty ducks. >>> But don't the ducks also pee in the lagoon? It would seem that their water consumption would be a zero-sum game.
