Originally Posted By Rebekah This topic is for discussion of the 3/21/2002 news item <b><a href="http://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/eyedrive/" target="_blank">OrWkly: It's dèjá vu all over again</a></b> The March 21st <I>Orlando Weekly</I> offers Jim Hill's review of the Walt Disney Studios Paris.
Originally Posted By x-TDL-character >>>{Martin} Short plays an obnoxious cell-phone user who magically gets sucked up into a movie. Speaking of things that suck,<<< ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Jim Hill!! Tell us how you REALLY feel!!!!!! Hahahahahahaha!! That just made my day!!!!
Originally Posted By Disneybrad What would have really been a shock would have been if if Hill had written atricale saying he liked the park.
Originally Posted By Park Hopper ... or saying he liked anything about the park. Now I remember why I stopped reading Jim Hill. He neglected to mention that they throw in three hours of Disneyland Paris with one day park admission. But that's typical Jim Hill, dwell on all the bad stuff and never mention any of the good. I wanted some more info on the new attractions. He just seemed to focus on quantity and didn't touch on quality. Did he like Armegedon? I can't tell but it doesn't seem like it. Disney Dweeb Park Hopper
Originally Posted By Kevin He is amazingly one-sided. In one breath he says that some DLP rides "were so reworked that they come across as entirely original efforts". Yet, Rock 'n Roller coaster isn't one of them? "Rock 'n' Roller Coaster starring Aerosmith [has] been slavishly copied". What? Looks different to me.
Originally Posted By x-TDL-character Hi Kevin. I think the idea the author was getting at was a little different. HOW different is SM Paris compared to FL, CA, or JP? I think it`s fair to say night and day. Hands down better. Would you say RnRC is night and day different from Florida? Hands down better?
Originally Posted By Kevin I see your point but when Jim Hill says he is disappointed, my take is that he is just bitter. When TDLFAN says he is disappointed, I believe him.
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct <When TDLFAN says he is disappointed, I believe him> yeah, me too ... and jaded
Originally Posted By x-TDL-character Kevin. I see what you`re saying. I haven`t read much Jim Hill stuff actually so I wouldn`t be in a position to catch such a pattern. And Dennis, stop that! TDLFAN is not jaded, he`s just, well...critical. Yeah, that`s it, critical! ; ) Maybe you`d better not come out to TDR after all, though, you might get jaded (er, I mean "critical") too after that experience and that would be a shame. I like hearing your enthusiasm, even if it is a bit Pollyanna-ish! : )
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct <you might get jaded> lol ... <grin> you are RIGHT! All this talk makes me downright FEAR a trip to TDL/TDS as I know I will NEVER enjoy Florida again ... EVER ... (stupid sexy Tokyo: ala Homer Simpson)
Originally Posted By x-TDL-character Hehe. Yup, that`s right buddy!! Naw, I still enjoy Florida and Disneyland. I just notice the differences in CM`s and cleanliness a lot more than I used to before coming to TDL.
Originally Posted By frederic You know the thruth: Jim Hill just never visited the WDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's the truth. Amoung the 9 rides/show, only 2 aree copycat (Catatsrophe Canyon and RRCN... the second being different - and better -for the light show). Animation is slightly different too. And all the others are not à Disney/MG: the stunt show, Disney Channel, Animagique, Cinemagique, Armageddon. You do not find those rides in any other Disney Theme park So, Jim Hill just don't know what he is talking about!
Originally Posted By nbodyhome I live in Orlando and I think that here, the Jim Hill articles end up balancing out the pro-everything spin from Disney. I am a huge Disney fan, and even I want to gag on some things that Disney says and does - the Jim Hill stuff is not great, but it's nice having a little cynicsm too now and then. Denise
Originally Posted By Disneybrad I live in Orlando too, and except for Disneys own press release most of the media, does not have a very pro-Disney spin. Most of it has a eihter very neutral or anti-Disney spin, blaming them and the rest of the tourist industry on the cites major problems. Disney even gets blamed for traffic problems in area 20 or 30 miles away in East Orlando and Seminole county.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome Hi Disneybrad - I always thought that the Orlando Sentinel was more pro-Disney. Mostly in what they ignore (the kidnappings took a LONG time for them to report on their site) as opposed to what they print. Disney is definitely a mixed bag for the area, but I was more talking about the on-site stuff (eliminating early entry and such). Disney tends to spin and spin until the guests are sure they were BEGGING for no more early entry! Denise
Originally Posted By OrlandoBoi ""Now, wait a minute, Jim," I hear the Disney dweebs saying. "Doesn't the first Disneyland Paris park also have cloned rides?"" Jim's been hanging around here obviously and seen some of the backwards logic employed here on occassion. ; )
Originally Posted By OrlandoBoi "He neglected to mention that they throw in three hours of Disneyland Paris with one day park admission. But that's typical Jim Hill, dwell on all the bad stuff and never mention any of the good." Well-if you talk to one of the Paris Resort's regular visitors, the cm's know nothing about this offer. I wouldn't be praising it either if I went all the way over to Paris and then found out that this(3 hour entry to DLP)was nothing more than "le false advertising."
Originally Posted By Disneybrad There have also been other who have visited saying the the 3-hour thing was done, and they were let in. So I have come to not always trust what some people say. I have even from reading various reports from some posters, that if you pay close attention, they were simultianiously in Paris for opening of WDS, in florida for the osft opening of PW, and at TDS, all at the same time.
Originally Posted By x-TDL-character Hi Disneybrad! What`s PW? And referring to the 3 hours issue, I believe it was TDLFAN who mentioned having trouble with this. Since he is a close personal friend of someone I know, I tend to believe him. Of course, you could discount my view as well and that would be fine, but anyway I have no trouble believing that the whole situation regarding the 3 hours promotion somehow got messed up in France. I also know some people who have worked there (and some who created the place) and that scenario doesn`t sound far fetched considering some other stories of DLP ineptitude I`ve heard about. Let`s just say they don`t have the "Disney way" down pat just yet.
