Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 Have any of you watched this? It is a 2-part show with Richard Engle and Rachel Maddow about how things have changed since 9/11. It is really well done. If you haven't watched it, you should see if they are replaying it or look it up online.
Originally Posted By barboy2 I didn't see it but here are some of the changes I have seen due to 9/11: far more security checks and more banned carry-on items at airports non-turban wearing folk distrust those who do wear them more these past 10 years the United States owes much more money civil liberties have eroded US flag sales have skyrocketed Disney funnels all guests through a bag check station a snitch culture has emerged preemptive war has become justified
Originally Posted By Donny Yeah I think we can calm down on most that stuff now.I would be for a smaller TSA
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I'm not sure that US Flag sales increasing is necessarily a bad thing in the United States of America
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 As for any specials regarding September 11th, I watched the George W Bush interview on National Geographic and that pretty much filled my desire to watch anything on the subject.
Originally Posted By barboy2 ///I'm not sure that US Flag sales increasing is necessarily a bad thing in the United States of America/// same here.......actually high or low sales doesn't mean much to me either way; I just rattled off direct changes that I have noticed to life in the USA due to 9/11. But ya, now that I looked at that list again it does looks heavy in negative changes.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 Re: #2 Well, they talk about the first four on your list, and the last two on your list, but they don't specifically mention flag sales or Disney bag checks...I can't believe they left those out
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 <<As for any specials regarding September 11th, I watched the George W Bush interview on National Geographic and that pretty much filled my desire to watch anything on the subject.>> It is not about the immediate aftermath, like the GWB documentary was. It is more about what has changed in the country over the past 10 years.
Originally Posted By barboy2 What confounds me is that while the civil liberty umbrella(individual rights/freedoms against the public) has seen far more holes in it these past ten years, 'civil rights' have actually been expanded in very dramatic fashion. Traditionally in the USA these two liberal devices have moved hand-in-hand-----generally speaking.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<It is not about the immediate aftermath, like the GWB documentary was. It is more about what has changed in the country over the past 10 years.>> I know that, but I'm done with the specials on September 11. I'll say a quiet prayer as I do everyday and then watch football.
Originally Posted By mele I don't plan on watching any 9/11 coverage. I watched everything there was to see for WEEKS directly after the attack. That was enough. I see no reason to go there right now. (Not w/o a dramatic increase of antidepressants, at least.)
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Here in NY, I actually see the anniversary as something I have to get through with (I hope) no ill effects. Especially the 10th anniversary. I'm sooooooo glad it's on a Sunday. Every year since 2001, it's the one day a year I'm a little skittish about riding the subway. I still do it of course, but I do things like leave for work early so I won't be heading through Brooklyn's Pacific/Atlantic station (where more train lines pass through than anywhere else, and site of at least one aborted attack) anywhere near the height of rush hour. And I do feel a little nervous on the train on that one day, just in case some lunatic decides to "mark" the anniversary. This year it's on a Sunday - yay. But I'll probably feel a little skittish tomorrow and Monday, as the closest work days to the anniversary. Less skittish, but two-days worth.
Originally Posted By mele I can see why you'd feel that way. I still feel like it's a bad idea to fly on that date, etc. I never do go anywhere and 9/11 but only because my daughter is in school. I do brace myself...it's horrible.
Originally Posted By mele I mean, it's horrible for me in Seattle, so I can't really even imagine what people in NYC go through.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 Yeah, it can be weird still living here. On one hand, I don't feel like reliving it with countless TV specials spread across multiple networks. On the other, I am respectful. I mean, I was there blocks from ground zero when it happened, so I did live through all that...I don't need to watch the footage again. I still do get a little nervous about traveling on that day, and yesterday for some odd reason, Jersey City decided to test their "early warning system" or whatever it's called. Basically an eerie sounding air-raid signal. Bad timing, if you ask me. We all got nervous thinking something new might have happened, but it was nothing...so, yes, even 10 years later we can be a little "on edge".
