Originally Posted By mawnck Here we go, kids, just like I promised. McCain has nothing to lose at this point, so here comes the kitchen sink: >>McCain Plans Fiercer Strategy Against Obama Sen. John McCain and his Republican allies are readying a newly aggressive assault on Sen. Barack Obama's character, believing that to win in November they must shift the conversation back to questions about the Democrat's judgment, honesty and personal associations, several top Republicans said. With just a month to go until Election Day, McCain's team has decided that its emphasis on the senator's biography as a war hero, experienced lawmaker and straight-talking maverick is insufficient to close a growing gap with Obama. The Arizonan's campaign is also eager to move the conversation away from the economy, an issue that strongly favors Obama and has helped him to a lead in many recent polls. "We're going to get a little tougher," a senior Republican operative said, indicating that a fresh batch of television ads is coming. "We've got to question this guy's associations. Very soon. There's no question that we have to change the subject here," said the operative, who was not authorized to discuss strategy and spoke on the condition of anonymity. << <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/03/AR2008100303738.html?hpid%3Dtopnews&sub=AR" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/...s&sub=AR</a>
Originally Posted By mawnck Oh, and just wanted to make sure everybody saw this, since there might be a quiz later: >>The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. appears to be off limits after McCain condemned the North Carolina Republican Party in April for an ad that linked Obama to his former pastor, saying, "Unfortunately, all I can do is, in as visible a way as possible, disassociate myself from that kind of campaigning." <<
Originally Posted By ecdc Obama has to hit back just as hard. He cannot take the Swiftboating that's sure to come lying down.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< With just a month to go until Election Day, McCain's team has decided that its emphasis on the senator's biography as a war hero, experienced lawmaker and straight-talking maverick is insufficient to close a growing gap with Obama. The Arizonan's campaign is also eager to move the conversation away from the economy, an issue that strongly favors Obama and has helped him to a lead in many recent polls. "We're going to get a little tougher," a senior Republican operative said, indicating that a fresh batch of television ads is coming. "We've got to question this guy's associations. Very soon. There's no question that we have to change the subject here," >>> Fascinating. Translation: We don't think we can win based on the issues or our candidate's track record, so we'll try our best to change the subject and divert voters' attention away from those things.
Originally Posted By ecdc Bingo, SuperDry. I wonder what those diehard McCain supporters on LP think of this. Do the ends justify the means?
Originally Posted By chickendumpling Something Wicked This Way Comes. Lots of folks have focused on lobbyist in McCain's campaign and have maybe overlooked other major players behind the new McCain. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/66g8bf" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/66g8bf</a> If you thought South Carolina was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I cannot believe how liberal this board has become, almost sickening.... Obama has run a dirty campaign from the beginning, but instead of doing it himself, he is having his Hollywood lackeys and the media do it for him... I feel the Reverend Wright issue needs another look, if McCain had a preacher who said "God Damn Black America", McCain would have been publicily executed...
Originally Posted By mele Do you have an examples of what the "Hollywood lackeys" have done that are so dirty? More whining about the MSM. The country, as well as LP, is more liberal right now because conservatives messed up. Tough. LOL
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 The country is so liberal because they are being brainwashed. Kind of like "Kids for Obama" when you tell a kid something over and over again they start to believe it... America is being brainwashed, and we are falling for it hook line and sinker. My favorite is that Republicans are being blamed for this financial crisis, a crisis that occurred with a Democraticly controlled House and Senate....If anything there should be equal blame to go around, not a railroading of Republicans as we have been seeing the last few weeks.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< The country is so liberal because they are being brainwashed. Kind of like "Kids for Obama" when you tell a kid something over and over again they start to believe it... >>> The acute irony of this is that the above notion regularly comes out of radio speakers that are tuned to broadcasts that do nothing but brainwashing, using among other techniques endless repetition.
Originally Posted By mele LOL, yes, it's all brainwashing. Funny how when your side is the majority it's the truth and when your side is the minority everyone is brainwashed. Uh huh.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< My favorite is that Republicans are being blamed for this financial crisis, a crisis that occurred with a Democraticly controlled House and Senate....If anything there should be equal blame to go around, not a railroading of Republicans as we have been seeing the last few weeks. >>> Are the regulatory agencies, such as the SEC and Treasury, executive or legislative agencies? Once you answer that, which party has been in charge of that branch of government for the past 7+ years? Certainly, there is shared blame and responsibility to go around, but the notion that it's "unfair" for Republicans to get most of it is laughable.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 My side? I can't stand McCain, he is a hipocritical son of a you know what, I could care less about these upcoming elections, because regardless of who is elected President I will still keep on making these semi annual trips to the sandbox. I will not sit still though while the media basically hands the election to one man. It reminds me of the San Diego/Denver game with Ed Hochuli, where he basically gave the game to Denver with his actions. The media is basically handing this election to Obama on a silver platter and it is absolutely sick. The worst part is , people are falling for the crap that is coming out of his mouth. At this point, I wish I could vote for none of the above this election, but I can't so neither candidate is getting my vote. I am still voting for other positions, but I refuse to vote for either party when neither cares about what is best for the American people...Regardless of what the media is pushing down our throats. Oh, btw, I am not able to listen to the talking points where I am at, I usually get to watch the last half hour of Oberlein and then the first half hour of O'Reilly, and maybe 30 mins of news throughout the day, so I am not just rattling off Conservative talking points, because quite frankly, I don't even know what they are these days. I am just speaking about what I am seeing with my own 2 eyes....
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 What has Congress done in the past 4 years? They have controlled both the House and the Senate for 4 years and done absolutely nothing... Sure President Bush has his veto, but the fact that Democrats sat idly by while our country was run into the ground is pathetic. What is even more pathetic is that Democrats are acting like they were not able to do nothing about it because the "Bush Dictatorship" prevented them or some other lame excuse... The blame is split 50/50 on both sides, and anyone who thinks otherwise is blind to the allegience of their pathetic political party. Think for yourselves people before it is too late.
Originally Posted By mele I believe Dems have had control for the past 2 years, not 4, but you're right. They haven't done jack.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I am not just rattling off Conservative talking points, because quite frankly, I don't even know what they are these days. >>> Actually, you have them down quite well. "The only reason that Obama is leading is because of the MSM" pretty much sums it up, along with references to liberal brainwashing. Combine that with what was quoted in the OP (that the subject needs to be changed away from the issues and track records and onto items that will deflect attention away from those things) and you pretty much have the conservative game plan for the next few weeks, at least as far as I can tell.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< The blame is split 50/50 on both sides, and anyone who thinks otherwise is blind to the allegience of their pathetic political party. >>> Bull. As mele pointed out, you don't even have your basic facts correct. Dems have controlled both houses of Congress for less than 2 years recently, not 4, and have had more or less unfettered control of the executive branch, and with very little interference from the judicial branch. To say that Dems somehow have 50% of the blame for the situation the nation finds itself in is what's blind and pathetic.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Dems have controlled both houses of Congress for less than 2 years recently, not 4, and have had more or less unfettered control of the executive branch, and with very little interference from the judicial branch. >>> I misstated that. Of course, it's the Republicans that have had control of the executive branch.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Senate they have controlled for 4, house for 2, but for arguments sake, name a substantial piece of Legislation protecting our economy that the Democrats have put in front of the President the last 2 years... I only want 1....
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Sure President Bush has his veto, but the fact that Democrats sat idly by while our country was run into the ground is pathetic.<< First, Democrats have been in control of Congress for two years, not four. Second, you can't just throw in the line about the veto and then say "but!" That's a huge "but" [insert your own joke here]. Plenty of legislation was stifled by that veto, including better benefits for veterans. Remember that one? McCain voted against it, Obama for it. Bush vetoed it. Same with health benefits for children. People keep criticizing the Congress. So I'd like an actual assessment of what they should have done, given Bush's veto and not a large enough majority to override. For once, let's actually hear what they should do instead of just "Congress sucks! They're approval rating's worse than Bush's! They haven't done anything! They let our economy tank! They didn't get us out of Iraq!" For the umpteenth time, what are they supposed to do *specifically* to correct these things. Finally, these occasional rants from lurkers (you're a great guy William, but you need to participate more instead of just showing up and popping off) make me think my original theory was correct. They don't even know why they don't like Obama. They just grasp at any possible straw they can to demonstrate why he's just so bad. He just is. You'll note that william's posts didn't include a single criticism of Obama's policies or why Obama himself can't be trusted as President. Instead, we got the following: --A criticism of Obama for running a dirty campaign, even though he's apparently not the one doing it. But we have no evidence given us that Obama asked his "Hollywood lackeys" to do this. We don't even really know what this refers to. --A criticism of Reverend Wright - again, Obama is held accountable for something someone else said, even though there's no evidence he was present when the comment was made and has repeatedly repudiated those statements. --A reference to "Kids for Obama" an independent organization that has nothing to do with Obama and can't be linked to him by anything other than his name. It'd make as much sense to criticize Disneyland if I started a group, "Neo-Nazis for Disneyland." --A criticism of Congress for the economy - see above. --The media is handing the election to Obama, yet there's no analysis or evidence to back up this absurd claim. Indeed, we've seen quite the opposite, Actual assessments of media coverage show more negative media coverage of Obama than of McCain. --That people are "falling" for the crap coming out of Obama's mouth. We're not told what this is, why it's wrong, or much else. Apparently, only william is smart enough to figure it out. The rest of us have been duped - we've "fallen" for the crap. Who knows what any of that means. We're certainly not told. Is it too much to hope for some actual substance in criticisms of Obama and Congress? Apparently.
